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StuartMcCallum
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'Group' & 'Ungroup' command

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11-08-2007 04:07 AM
Does anyone know if you are able to use the 'Group' and 'Ungroup commands in Autocad 2007/2008?? having severe difficulty!! I know that I can use the block command, but its not as convenient.

Any help would be appreciated.
*Gordon Stephens
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Re: 'Group' & 'Ungroup' command

11-08-2007 04:44 AM in reply to: StuartMcCallum
Seems to work fine here : "g" (acad.pgp) or "group" via dialog box if you have "cmddia" set to 1, or "-group" for the
command line version. To remove or 'ungroup', highlight the specific group name at the top of the dialog box and the
greyed out options leap into life, else in the command line version use "explode" or any of the other options that show.
You can get a list of groups with "?" and can include unnamed (*) groups too. Very useful on occasion - I have a
'quick-group' lisp that I use from time to time - just select the objects and it crates an unnamed group, no hassle.
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Does anyone know if you are able to use the 'Group' and 'Ungroup commands in Autocad 2007/2008?? having severe
difficulty!! I know that I can use the block command, but its not as convenient.

Any help would be appreciated.
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StuartMcCallum
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Registered: ‎11-08-2007
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Re: 'Group' & 'Ungroup' command

11-08-2007 04:48 AM in reply to: StuartMcCallum
excellent, ill give that a go.

You use to be able to get the icon on the tool bar, in fact, a couple of the computers here still have it. It seems to be non existant with the full version of autocad, but ill give it a go and see...

thanks,

stu
*Dean Saadallah
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Re: 'Group' & 'Ungroup' command

11-08-2007 05:52 AM in reply to: StuartMcCallum
Are you comparing LT to full AutoCAD? LT has pkfstgroup and pkfstungroup
commands not found in Full AutoCAD, so there are no icons for non-existent
commands... .

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StuartMcCallum
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Re: 'Group' & 'Ungroup' command

11-08-2007 06:01 AM in reply to: StuartMcCallum
thas what i wanted to know, thanks. shame, that was a very handy tool.
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tlindell
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Re: 'Group' & 'Ungroup' command

11-08-2007 06:10 AM in reply to: StuartMcCallum
I made some group lisp commands a while back and posted them here: http://discussion.autodesk.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5206423

You will still need to make your own icons and buttons to make the toolbar though. I posted a wishlist on the augi wishlist forum to improve group tools in full AutoCAD, such as having a toolbar or palette, etc. Please vote for it there!
*Allen Jessup
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Re: 'Group' & 'Ungroup' command

11-08-2007 06:58 AM in reply to: StuartMcCallum
The full AutoCAD Group command is much more extensive than the LT version.
You can create named or unnamed groups, add or subtract from them or explode
them.

What I do to create a quick group is use lisp: (setq qq (ssget)). Then to
select that group type !qq on the command line. If you wanted to you could
create a few buttons to create the selection sets and corresponding ones to
select them. There isn't a need to explode them because they're just named
selection sets. You can even have overlapping ones.

Allen

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excellent, ill give that a go.

You use to be able to get the icon on the tool bar, in fact, a couple of the
computers here still have it. It seems to be non existant with the full
version of autocad, but ill give it a go and see...

thanks,

stu
*Dean Saadallah
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Re: 'Group' & 'Ungroup' command

11-08-2007 10:15 AM in reply to: StuartMcCallum
GROUP command functionality is identical in both programs: LT has two extras
that's all, you need to Lisp to get in full AutoCAD, nothing OOTB... .

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frankreid
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Registered: ‎12-16-2008
Message 9 of 14 (3,536 Views)

Re: 'Group' & 'Ungroup' command

06-10-2009 12:23 PM in reply to: StuartMcCallum
Dean is correct but we are looking for a way to ungroup in Full Autocad something that was grouped in LT. I have LT 2009 and saving in 2004 and I also have Full 2008. I'm unable to Group in the LT and Ungroup in the Full.

The group command in LT is great to use for a group of lines of a component so they can be moved as , well, a group. It's been in LT a long time and it works much like the Group command in MS Word does. I often use it to create an unnamed group because it's so easy to just click the button on the toolbar, select the items then hit Enter. No need to give it a name.

But the Group command doesn't work the same in the Full 2008 version and I Haven't found a way, yet, to ungroup in Full what was Grouped in LT.

Frank Reid
*Dean Saadallah
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Re: 'Group' & 'Ungroup' command

06-10-2009 02:10 PM in reply to: StuartMcCallum
-GROUP, note the dash, will let you group on the fly. In a button macro as
you desire, it works fine.

copy/paste function ungroups all the time: simply COPYBASE and PASTECLIP to
a neutral location, like say 0,0.

Now there are two routines, group and ungroup.


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