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ericleebrown
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Drafting Time - How long does it take to draw

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01-13-2011 11:19 AM

Good morning.  I have a general question for the AutoCAD and Revit public??  In your expertise, how long would it take you to draw a floor plan of a 10,000 SF hospital with 25-35 rooms???  Reason being, I was asked today how long it would take to draw a 10,000 SF, 25,000 SF, and 50,000 SF floor plan for a hospital building..  This is in regards to AutoCAD as well as Revit. 

 

Thank you in advance for your time.  I really appreciate it.



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Re: Drafting Time - How long does it take to draw

01-13-2011 02:07 PM in reply to: ericleebrown

It really is a bit of a loaded question.  To what extent are you drawing the floorplans?  Schematic, DD, CD?  What amount of detail is required?  Windows, doors, stairs, etc. If you already have a schematic, then it could be as quick as a few hours.  If you are designing the level, then you might take a couple of days.  Are you taking into accound reflected ceiling plans?

 

With revit, you have wall types to build, if you are not using the preset / previously designed walls in the system.

 

Short answer...  Half a day to a couple of days depending on level of detail required in the design.

 

 

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Re: Drafting Time - How long does it take to draw

01-13-2011 02:12 PM in reply to: danielfontenot

thank you for the reply.  I guess I am being too vague.  Let me start over, what about a box, same square footage as before, 10k, 25k, and 50k.  straight interior and exterior walls.  25-35 interior offices, each one having a door.  just a floor plan.  no dimensions.



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Re: Drafting Time - How long does it take to draw

01-13-2011 02:43 PM in reply to: ericleebrown

Based on that scope, i might say an hour or so... 

 

 

... Yup... with no constraints, besides the sftg and room quantities, i now have a floor with 29 rooms at 10000 sq. ft. to the inside of the exterior walls... in autocad 2009.

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Re: Drafting Time - How long does it take to draw

01-14-2011 08:39 AM in reply to: danielfontenot

...sure, if we're talking about basic lines and no detail to speak of, no MEP,RCP etc...

 

With Revit you'd get a bit farther but you'd probably be using their all-purpose dummy walls and floors for example.

I hope my info was useful, but if by some odd chance it actually solved your issue, feel free to mark your post as "Accept as Solution". Thanks! :smileyhappy:
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Re: Drafting Time - How long does it take to draw

01-14-2011 09:07 AM in reply to: ericleebrown

good morning...  thank you for all of your replies.  i appologize for being so vague, so i will refine my question....  How long would it take to draw a 10K SF floor plan.  straight walls, no curves.  within this 10K SF building is 25-35 offices with a door to each office.  also, there are windows along the exterior walls.  that's it...  what do you think???   also, no dimensions, no annotation, no detail cuts, no sections.....  just walls, doors, and wnidows.   thank you in advance.



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HMC Architects / 770 East Warm Springs Rd. / Studio 120 / Las Vegas, NV 89119 / T 702 315 4203

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Patchy
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Re: Drafting Time - How long does it take to draw

01-14-2011 09:48 AM in reply to: ericleebrown

Give me 3 days.

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Re: Drafting Time - How long does it take to draw

01-14-2011 09:58 AM in reply to: Patchy

patchy,

thank you for your reply.  i was asked about time and budget for a project.  the bottom line is that this question came up.  i was asked about two perspectives, intermediate and advanced cad and revit users.  thanks again for your time...  by the  way, i agree with you.  3 days in autocad and 2.5 days in revit...  (at least that is my personal experience.)

 

The question about time and budget always comes up for every project.  using a rule-of-thumb for each unique project is the tricky part.....



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Re: Drafting Time - How long does it take to draw

01-14-2011 10:03 AM in reply to: ericleebrown

Anyone said an hour is working him/herself out of a job.

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Re: Drafting Time - How long does it take to draw

01-14-2011 10:46 AM in reply to: ericleebrown

Look at the original scope.  10,000 sq. ft. one door per room, no windows, no perspectives, no detail.  When you have to do perspectives, not just block out, of course it will take time.

 

Agreed.

 

However, with no mention of specific finishes, wall types, ada requirments, egress requirements, curtain wall/ x0x0 window type, or what each office is used for... heck, there was not even mention whether each office needed an exterior window...

 

Even if you did have to do a perspective, it should not take any more than 2 days of hand drafting using autocad w/ blocks for windows and doors to do it.  Shoot, you could probably even extrude all of the walls, windows and roof in that time...  The description of the scope is purely 10% dd at best... really still conceptual...

 

It is when you start considering local code, building usage, materials, that you'll start getting into several days of work...

 

Anyone taking 3 days or more to block out a single story, conceptual 'box', is either billing their customer too much, or perhaps putting too much work into something that is likely going to change completely.

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