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Rainman1
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External References

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10-18-2010 08:00 AM

I am trying to attach external references to my drawing. The problem I am having is my external reference is in model space, but, I also have a title block in paper space and the drawing is coming in at the wrong scale and wrong location. I do not need the title block or any paper space information from my external reference. How can I get the ex. ref. to come in at the proper scale and location? Also, do I have to shut off all the layers that I don't want in the ex. ref. first before I bring it into my drawing or should I do it after I attach the ex. ref.? The ex. ref's. I am bringing in have water, sanitary and storm information on them but I only want the water information in my drawing.

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pendean
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Re: External References

10-18-2010 02:40 PM in reply to: Rainman1

XREF always ignores layouts, so there is nothing to do there.

 

You need to ensure both files are the same 'scale': if not, you need to use the XREF pop-up to adjust it accrodingly. Find a known dimension and measure it once you Xref to find out what you need to do to fix the xref.

 

Yes it is considered good practice to freeze layers you do not want to display BEFORE you Xref, although there is no reason you cannot do that after you Xref: LAYER command works as always.

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Re: External References

10-19-2010 05:37 AM in reply to: pendean

Thanks Dean. I notice that each xref brings its own layers into my drawing, is this normal? I tried shutting them off in the xref first but the layers are still on when I bring them into my drawing. Is there a way around this?

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pendean
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Re: External References

10-19-2010 08:59 AM in reply to: Rainman1

Your top drawing controls the Xref layers if you have VISRETAIN variable set that way: you change that behavior if you want to manage the layering in the Xref first.

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Re: External References

10-19-2010 10:22 AM in reply to: pendean

Thanks Dean

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Rainman1
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Re: External References

10-19-2010 12:26 PM in reply to: pendean

Ok, another problem. I bring the xref into my drawing, scale and everything is fine. I shut off layers (in my drawing, not the xref) that I do not want on. I save the drawing and close it, when I open the drawing, those layers are back on. Is there a way to shut these off permanently in my drawing without shutting them off in the xref?

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Johneng
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Message 7 of 10 (423 Views)

Re: External References

10-20-2010 09:41 PM in reply to: Rainman1

Visretain system varible

 

 

The Visretain system varible controls the properties of xref-dependent layers.

Controls visibility, color, linetype, lineweight, and plot styles.

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The layer table, as stored in the reference drawing (xref), takes precedence. Changes made to xref-dependent layers in the current drawing are valid in the current session only and are not saved with the drawing. When the current drawing is reopened, the layer table is reloaded from the reference drawing, and the current drawing reflects all of those layer property settings.

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Xref-dependent layer changes made in the current drawing take precedence. Layer settings are saved with the current drawing's layer table and persist from session to session.

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Re: External References

10-21-2010 05:46 AM in reply to: Johneng

Perfect! Thanks.

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Modman_4
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Message 9 of 10 (410 Views)

Re: External References

10-22-2010 06:24 AM in reply to: Rainman1

Why would you want to attach XREFs anyway? If it's for archiving purposes, why not try Etransmit to create a zip file containing all files and settings associated with the parent file -- including the XREFs...

 

Is this why in another post you were wondering why a 1 meg file was bloating to 20 or more upon saving?

I hope my info was useful, but if by some odd chance it actually solved your issue, feel free to mark your post as "Accept as Solution". Thanks! :smileyhappy:
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Re: External References

10-22-2010 06:31 AM in reply to: Modman_4

It is not for archiving purposes. No, this has nothing to do with the save as, bloated file.

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