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*Ian A. White
Message 11 of 53 (605 Views)

Re: Updates to Autodesk Discussion Groups

05-27-2010 06:13 PM in reply to: wrighte
On Thu, 27 May 2010 06:31:46 -0700, Jason Piercey
wrote:

>Where is the research data that says users have come to
>expect a "state-of the-art" web experience? Was there
>a poll/survey made available to users that support this?
>
> wrote in message news:6398145@discussion.autodesk.com...
>> necessary to continue providing the state-of-art web
>> experience Autodesk customers have come to expect.

Is Autodesk implying that its web based discussion groups is
"state-of-the-art"? Me thinks they have not looked around too much. I
mean, this has remained the same for years. If that is state of the
art, then the art has not changed for quite a while. You only have to
look at the many web based forums (discussing all sorts of things)
around to see that there is heaps of forum software around that leave
the Autodesk one for dead.

Oh yes, and the research line is what is called a "throw away line" in
the business world. The best thing to do with such a line is to do as
it says - throw it away.

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*Herman Mayfarth
Message 12 of 53 (606 Views)

Re: Updates to Autodesk Discussion Groups

05-27-2010 09:39 PM in reply to: wrighte
>'come to expect'
because Adesk has crammed it down our throats.:smileyhappy:

> intended purpose is to impede, hinder and obstruct

Personally, I doubt it is that diabolical, Tony.

Methinks you are imputing intelligence where very little exists, only greed.

Ergo, contempt for their customers.

> free product testing services

Yah:smileyhappy:

Fact is, virtually all the other peer to peer support fora out there these
days are html based, so what's the BFD?

Well, to me it is the barnyard stink of corporate doublespeak.

Discontinuing support is an "upgrade." yeah, right.

Who cares, since this place is going down in a few days anyway.

'Nuff said.:smileyhappy:

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Herman Mayfarth
Tekton Construction Services
www.tktn.com
*Gert
Message 13 of 53 (607 Views)

Re: Updates to Autodesk Discussion Groups

05-28-2010 12:52 AM in reply to: wrighte
state of art... cool... looking forward to see many funky flash animations

Herman Mayfarth wrote:
>>'come to expect'
>
> because Adesk has crammed it down our throats.:smileyhappy:
>
>
>>intended purpose is to impede, hinder and obstruct
>
>
> Personally, I doubt it is that diabolical, Tony.
>
> Methinks you are imputing intelligence where very little exists, only greed.
>
> Ergo, contempt for their customers.
>
>
>>free product testing services
>
>
> Yah:smileyhappy:
>
> Fact is, virtually all the other peer to peer support fora out there these
> days are html based, so what's the BFD?
>
> Well, to me it is the barnyard stink of corporate doublespeak.
>
> Discontinuing support is an "upgrade." yeah, right.
>
> Who cares, since this place is going down in a few days anyway.
>
> 'Nuff said.:smileyhappy:
>
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dgorsman
Posts: 5,096
Registered: ‎10-12-2006
Message 14 of 53 (605 Views)

Re: Updates to Autodesk Discussion Groups

05-28-2010 09:15 AM in reply to: wrighte
It says users are expecting state of the art, not what is being delivered. That matches rather well with reality.
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*Jason Piercey
Message 15 of 53 (607 Views)

Re: Updates to Autodesk Discussion Groups

05-28-2010 09:21 AM in reply to: wrighte
I'll take the absence of reply as "No". So in reality the
users are not expecting such a thing, rather Autodesk
is pushing it on them regardless of what they want.

"Jason Piercey" wrote in message news:6398477@discussion.autodesk.com...
Was there a poll/survey made available to users that support this?

wrote in message news:6398145@discussion.autodesk.com...
> necessary to continue providing the state-of-art web
> experience Autodesk customers have come to expect.
*David Bethel
Message 16 of 53 (606 Views)

Re: Updates to Autodesk Discussion Groups

05-28-2010 12:03 PM in reply to: wrighte
I actually like the bulletin board forums much better then either news
reader or ADesk's web based stuff. Just a much more intuitive interface.

CadTutor has been around a long time, keeps everything very
professional, and the software is very user friendly.

The Swamp does nice job as well.

-David
*R.K. McSwain
Message 17 of 53 (605 Views)

Re: Updates to Autodesk Discussion Groups

05-31-2010 05:07 PM in reply to: wrighte
David Bethel wrote:
> CadTutor has been around a long time, keeps everything very
> professional, and the software is very user friendly.
>
> The Swamp does nice job as well.

But Autodesk isn't going with vBulletin or SMF....


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wrighte
Posts: 663
Registered: ‎09-22-2008
Message 18 of 53 (606 Views)

Re: Updates to Autodesk Discussion Groups

06-01-2010 09:08 AM in reply to: wrighte
I think you'll be happy with the improvements for supporting code in posts. See attached screen shot with a sample post from the new system that includes:

1. angle brackets typed in
2. pasted code (specific paste function that preserved formatting, and provided variable width window within the post)



--ERIC


Eric Wright
Sr. Web Product Manager
Autodesk Knowledge Network
Autodesk, Inc.

*Jason Piercey
Message 19 of 53 (608 Views)

Re: Updates to Autodesk Discussion Groups

06-01-2010 09:31 AM in reply to: wrighte
What about indents? Looks like it was removed from that paste
unless they were absent to begin with. I also don't see code within
the angle brackets, unless << code within angle brackets works >>
was supposed to be it.


wrote in message news:6400743@discussion.autodesk.com...
I think you'll be happy with the improvements for supporting code in posts. See attached screen shot with a sample post from the new
system that includes:

1. angle brackets typed in
2. pasted code (specific paste function that preserved formatting, and provided variable width window within the post)



--ERIC
*Expert Elite*
Kent1Cooper
Posts: 5,251
Registered: ‎09-13-2004
Message 20 of 53 (607 Views)

Re: Updates to Autodesk Discussion Groups

06-01-2010 09:46 AM in reply to: wrighte
I don't see any angle brackets at all in the code portion of that image, only the double ones around the claim "code between angle brackets works." Am I missing something?

And I agree with Jason -- what about indentation?

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Kent Cooper


wrighte wrote...
....See attached screen shot with a sample post from the new system that includes:

1. angle brackets typed in
....
Kent Cooper

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