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    Visual LISP, AutoLISP and General Customization

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    *Ian A. White

    Re: Updates to Autodesk Discussion Groups

    05-27-2010 06:13 PM in reply to: wrighte
    On Thu, 27 May 2010 06:31:46 -0700, Jason Piercey
    wrote:

    >Where is the research data that says users have come to
    >expect a "state-of the-art" web experience? Was there
    >a poll/survey made available to users that support this?
    >
    > wrote in message news:6398145@discussion.autodesk.com...
    >> necessary to continue providing the state-of-art web
    >> experience Autodesk customers have come to expect.

    Is Autodesk implying that its web based discussion groups is
    "state-of-the-art"? Me thinks they have not looked around too much. I
    mean, this has remained the same for years. If that is state of the
    art, then the art has not changed for quite a while. You only have to
    look at the many web based forums (discussing all sorts of things)
    around to see that there is heaps of forum software around that leave
    the Autodesk one for dead.

    Oh yes, and the research line is what is called a "throw away line" in
    the business world. The best thing to do with such a line is to do as
    it says - throw it away.

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    *Herman Mayfarth

    Re: Updates to Autodesk Discussion Groups

    05-27-2010 09:39 PM in reply to: wrighte
    >'come to expect'
    because Adesk has crammed it down our throats.:smileyhappy:

    > intended purpose is to impede, hinder and obstruct

    Personally, I doubt it is that diabolical, Tony.

    Methinks you are imputing intelligence where very little exists, only greed.

    Ergo, contempt for their customers.

    > free product testing services

    Yah:smileyhappy:

    Fact is, virtually all the other peer to peer support fora out there these
    days are html based, so what's the BFD?

    Well, to me it is the barnyard stink of corporate doublespeak.

    Discontinuing support is an "upgrade." yeah, right.

    Who cares, since this place is going down in a few days anyway.

    'Nuff said.:smileyhappy:

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    Herman Mayfarth
    Tekton Construction Services
    www.tktn.com
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    *Gert

    Re: Updates to Autodesk Discussion Groups

    05-28-2010 12:52 AM in reply to: wrighte
    state of art... cool... looking forward to see many funky flash animations

    Herman Mayfarth wrote:
    >>'come to expect'
    >
    > because Adesk has crammed it down our throats.:smileyhappy:
    >
    >
    >>intended purpose is to impede, hinder and obstruct
    >
    >
    > Personally, I doubt it is that diabolical, Tony.
    >
    > Methinks you are imputing intelligence where very little exists, only greed.
    >
    > Ergo, contempt for their customers.
    >
    >
    >>free product testing services
    >
    >
    > Yah:smileyhappy:
    >
    > Fact is, virtually all the other peer to peer support fora out there these
    > days are html based, so what's the BFD?
    >
    > Well, to me it is the barnyard stink of corporate doublespeak.
    >
    > Discontinuing support is an "upgrade." yeah, right.
    >
    > Who cares, since this place is going down in a few days anyway.
    >
    > 'Nuff said.:smileyhappy:
    >
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    dgorsman
    Posts: 3,388
    Registered: ‎10-12-2006

    Re: Updates to Autodesk Discussion Groups

    05-28-2010 09:15 AM in reply to: wrighte
    It says users are expecting state of the art, not what is being delivered. That matches rather well with reality.
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    If you are going to fly by the seat of your pants, expect friction burns.
    Adopt. Adapt. Overcome. Or be overcome.


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    *Jason Piercey

    Re: Updates to Autodesk Discussion Groups

    05-28-2010 09:21 AM in reply to: wrighte
    I'll take the absence of reply as "No". So in reality the
    users are not expecting such a thing, rather Autodesk
    is pushing it on them regardless of what they want.

    "Jason Piercey" wrote in message news:6398477@discussion.autodesk.com...
    Was there a poll/survey made available to users that support this?

    wrote in message news:6398145@discussion.autodesk.com...
    > necessary to continue providing the state-of-art web
    > experience Autodesk customers have come to expect.
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    *David Bethel

    Re: Updates to Autodesk Discussion Groups

    05-28-2010 12:03 PM in reply to: wrighte
    I actually like the bulletin board forums much better then either news
    reader or ADesk's web based stuff. Just a much more intuitive interface.

    CadTutor has been around a long time, keeps everything very
    professional, and the software is very user friendly.

    The Swamp does nice job as well.

    -David
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    *R.K. McSwain

    Re: Updates to Autodesk Discussion Groups

    05-31-2010 05:07 PM in reply to: wrighte
    David Bethel wrote:
    > CadTutor has been around a long time, keeps everything very
    > professional, and the software is very user friendly.
    >
    > The Swamp does nice job as well.

    But Autodesk isn't going with vBulletin or SMF....


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    wrighte
    Posts: 652
    Registered: ‎09-22-2008

    Re: Updates to Autodesk Discussion Groups

    06-01-2010 09:08 AM in reply to: wrighte
    I think you'll be happy with the improvements for supporting code in posts. See attached screen shot with a sample post from the new system that includes:

    1. angle brackets typed in
    2. pasted code (specific paste function that preserved formatting, and provided variable width window within the post)



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    Eric Wright
    Sr. Web Product Manager
    Autodesk Knowledge Network
    Autodesk, Inc.

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    *Jason Piercey

    Re: Updates to Autodesk Discussion Groups

    06-01-2010 09:31 AM in reply to: wrighte
    What about indents? Looks like it was removed from that paste
    unless they were absent to begin with. I also don't see code within
    the angle brackets, unless << code within angle brackets works >>
    was supposed to be it.


    wrote in message news:6400743@discussion.autodesk.com...
    I think you'll be happy with the improvements for supporting code in posts. See attached screen shot with a sample post from the new
    system that includes:

    1. angle brackets typed in
    2. pasted code (specific paste function that preserved formatting, and provided variable width window within the post)



    --ERIC
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    Kent1Cooper
    Posts: 4,159
    Registered: ‎09-13-2004

    Re: Updates to Autodesk Discussion Groups

    06-01-2010 09:46 AM in reply to: wrighte
    I don't see any angle brackets at all in the code portion of that image, only the double ones around the claim "code between angle brackets works." Am I missing something?

    And I agree with Jason -- what about indentation?

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    Kent Cooper


    wrighte wrote...
    ....See attached screen shot with a sample post from the new system that includes:

    1. angle brackets typed in
    ....
    Kent Cooper
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