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place from Vault vs place

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Anonymous
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place from Vault vs place

Can someone please discuss the difference between "place from vault" and
"place" for adding a part to an assembly?
If I have an assembly that is already in the Vault, and I use "place",
save the assembly, check the assembly in, and close it, is the placed
part checked into the Vault?
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

"Place" is an Inventor assembly command to add a component you already have in your local workspace to the iam.

With "place", you get an open file dialog box that lists the folders & files on your local workspace.

"Place from vault" is actually doing the same thing but running a secondary vault command of "get latest" transparently & then returning you back into the still runing Inventor "place" command.

Place from Vault will start the same "open" dialog box, but the folders & files listed are the vault folders rather than the locals. (it is actually looking into the vault database.) When you "place from vault", choose a file & OK, Vault runs a "get latest" on the file & downloads it to the local workspace, then immediatly returns you to the Place in progress.

Place from vault is used when you are adding a component to an assy that you don't already have downloaded to your workspace.

If you add parts to a checked out iam & save it, when you switch from model browser to vault browser you'll see "?" if the files are not in the vault (new files added by "place"). You'll be required to 1st add the new files before you can check the iam back in.

With existing vaulted components, (added by either place or place from vault) when you save the iam, and check it into the vault, any component that was added to the iam will be checked in with it. Actually only components that were checked out and changed, get checked in. Any component that was checked out & not changed has an undo checkout performed on it.

It will all happen automatically, regardless of where the copy of the component started out from.

Hope this helps.

Sue
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Thanks Sue,
That's very helpful. Here's another question: On my machine I have the
Vault working directory set to a location on my hard drive, but the
files seem to be going to the server instead. Of course the vaulted
files are stored on the server, but there is also a non-vault directory
structure that appears to be used rather than the local "working directory".
Any ideas on that?
Alan

Squeezer wrote:
> "Place" is an Inventor assembly command to add a component you already have in your local workspace to the iam.
>
> With "place", you get an open file dialog box that lists the folders & files on your local workspace.
>
> "Place from vault" is actually doing the same thing but running a secondary vault command of "get latest" transparently & then returning you back into the still runing Inventor "place" command.
>
> Place from Vault will start the same "open" dialog box, but the folders & files listed are the vault folders rather than the locals. (it is actually looking into the vault database.) When you "place from vault", choose a file & OK, Vault runs a "get latest" on the file & downloads it to the local workspace, then immediatly returns you to the Place in progress.
>
> Place from vault is used when you are adding a component to an assy that you don't already have downloaded to your workspace.
>
> If you add parts to a checked out iam & save it, when you switch from model browser to vault browser you'll see "?" if the files are not in the vault (new files added by "place"). You'll be required to 1st add the new files before you can check the iam back in.
>
> With existing vaulted components, (added by either place or place from vault) when you save the iam, and check it into the vault, any component that was added to the iam will be checked in with it. Actually only components that were checked out and changed, get checked in. Any component that was checked out & not changed has an undo checkout performed on it.
>
> It will all happen automatically, regardless of where the copy of the component started out from.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Sue
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

It's hard for me to say..
I cannot quite visualize your current setup or which files are going to the wrong place and when.

Example:

Are the files Library files or regular ones?

Are the files going into the vault OK during "Add File" or "Check In" from Inventor and going to the Wrong place (ie the network) when performing a "get latest" or check out"?

If they go IN OK, and come OUT wrong, the "set working folder" (done from vault explorer) is probably mapped to the network rather than your c:\drive for some or all of your folders (If it happening with some files & not others, you may have "over-mapped" some vault folders differently than the root.)

Mapping just the vault root $ to your c:\,
causes all other vault folders below the $ to inherit the mapped root. But if you map each folder separately rather than inherit, you can end up with files going all over the place.

To get the folders back to inheriting the $ mapping,
Start Vault Explorer, highlight each suspect folder in the browser, RightMouseButton>properties>default

Mapping Project folders TO the vault is done from Inventor>Vault>MapFolders. In this case, you map the Project Root to the Vault folder where the ipj is stored.

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