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Vault User Interface Inconsistencies

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scottmoyse
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Vault User Interface Inconsistencies

I'm starting a series of blog posts highlighting the UI issues in Vault. As I have the time and come across them I will be posting on the blog.

 

Intro:

 

http://designandmotion.net/autodesk/autodesk-vault-love-hate-relationship/

 

here is the first post:

 

http://designandmotion.net/autodesk/vault-vault-ui-property-conditions/


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Message 2 of 15
mikel_martin
in reply to: scottmoyse

(repost due to spelling error)

 

Hi Scott,

 

First, let me say I look forward to the feedback. We are always glad to receive constructive feedback from our customers. I plan to add your blog to my rss feeds so I can be sure not to miss the conversation.

 

On another note, as someone that cares about this issue, would you be willing to be considered a regular contact for our UX team and give feedback on planed changes?

 

If you (or anyone else) is interesting proving feedback to our UX team please send me your contact information and I will add you to our list. My email is mikel.martin@autodesk.com.



Mikel Martin
User Experience Architect
Autodesk, Inc.
Message 3 of 15
scottmoyse
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Thank you for taking the time to reply Mikel. I have sent you an email


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Message 4 of 15
knacsol113
in reply to: scottmoyse

Hi Scott, Here's one: When using the "Assign Category" tool, I have two options to move the Available Property Definitions across to the Assigned Property Definitions box. Both "drag 'n drop" and the "Add>>" button work. When using the "Configure Data Card" however, I can only use the "Add ->" (note that the arrows are different, >> vs ->) button to move the Properties to the Data Card box. Drag 'n drop doesn't work. And then yet another difference, in the "Item Export" wizard, there is no "Add" button at all. I can ONLY drag 'n drop the Vault Professional Attributes to the Export file box. See attached screenshots. Go figure....
Message 5 of 15
scottmoyse
in reply to: knacsol113

Great start, that one is a proper can of worms, I will elaborate on it in my post. Cheers!


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Message 6 of 15
cliff.haynes
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I have one. Sometimes when using the Inventor Add-In I attempt to check in an assembly containing library parts or assemblies. For some reason Inventor thinks those library parts have changed, and when I try to check the assembly in it fails due to not being able to save those 'changed' library parts. To get around this, I close the file, which brings up the dialog asking if I want to check the assembly in (provided it is already in vault and I have it checked out of course). If I click 'Yes', it should give me grief about not being able to save the library file/assembly, but instead it ignores that and takes me to the check in dialog, where I can successfully check in the assembly.

 

This is with Vault Collaboration 2012. Has anyone else experienced this?

Message 7 of 15
scottmoyse
in reply to: cliff.haynes

yes but the close workaround is a handy bug. There are a number of reasons why this happens check these out:

 

http://crackingthevault.typepad.com/crackingthevault/2010/10/why-does-my-inventor-assembly-always-ne...

 

http://crackingthevault.typepad.com/crackingthevault/2010/10/changes-have-been-made-to-some-assembly...

 

But you can check out my article and other posts about vault here:

 

http://designandmotion.net/autodesk/mfg-pages/inventor/inventor-navigating-the-library-assembly-mine...

 

Some videos for it are here: http://designandmotion.net/autodesk/mfg-pages/inventor/inventor-vault-library-videos/


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Message 8 of 15
scottmoyse
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@knacsol113 wrote:
Hi Scott, Here's one: When using the "Assign Category" tool, I have two options to move the Available Property Definitions across to the Assigned Property Definitions box. Both "drag 'n drop" and the "Add>>" button work. When using the "Configure Data Card" however, I can only use the "Add ->" (note that the arrows are different, >> vs ->) button to move the Properties to the Data Card box. Drag 'n drop doesn't work. And then yet another difference, in the "Item Export" wizard, there is no "Add" button at all. I can ONLY drag 'n drop the Vault Professional Attributes to the Export file box. See attached screenshots. Go figure....

Thanks a lot for posting that "un named" 🙂 I have created a blog post here:

 

http://designandmotion.net/autodesk/autodesk-vault-vault-ui-assign-configure-add-dialogues/

 

I added a few more cases but didn't include the item import example, since that format works well for mapping out the properties between the source file and the destination Items.

 

I hope you like it.

 

If you have any more example fire them through.

 

Cheers


Scott.


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Message 9 of 15
scottmoyse
in reply to: mikel_martin

This issue relates to renaming folders

 

http://designandmotion.net/bug-report/autodesk-vault-vault-ui-rename-folder


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Message 10 of 15
scottmoyse
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This one covers some small issues when creating a New Folder in the Vault Client

 

http://designandmotion.net/autodesk/autodesk-vault-vault-ui-folder/


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Message 11 of 15
scottmoyse
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This post highlights inconsistencies with common Vault tools when used with Search Folders:

 

http://designandmotion.net/autodesk/autodesk-vault-vault-ui-search-folder-issues/

 

I think this post will get added to as time goes on and I discover more issues surrounding the use of Search Folders.


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Message 12 of 15
Senthil_Kumar
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Scott,

 

Thanks for the post. With 2013 release you can get the properties from the Search folder result.

 

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Senthil Kumar
Development Manager,
Autodesk, Inc.


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Message 13 of 15
scottmoyse
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Ok I will take a look. Cheers Regards Scott Moyse Sent from my iPhone ##################################################################################### This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal #####################################################################################

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Message 14 of 15
scottmoyse
in reply to: Senthil_Kumar

Yup that particular issue has been resolve Senthil, thanks for pointing it out. I've updated the blog post to suit. I did notice however, that the Properties command is available in the context menu for folders but not for files.... it should be consistent, although I do acknowledge users are more likely to access folder 'properties' for control security settings than they are with files.

 

This raising a point though. Why is there a command to access the 'Properties' of files & folders but also the Properties grid for files & folders. This is a conflict in terminology, you soon get used to it, however, for new users, they right click to see Properties on folders, or see properties in the file menu and expect to have a dialogue appear which will allow them to modify UDP's or System properties...


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Message 15 of 15
Senthil_Kumar
in reply to: scottmoyse

Hi Scott,

 

Thanks for your reply and further information on the UI. I agree with you on the inconsistency part as well as about the "Properties" command. I will forward this to the development team to take a look.

 

Thanks again!

 



Senthil Kumar
Development Manager,
Autodesk, Inc.


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