Hi All
I have followed the steps described here http://underthehood-autodesk.typepad.com/blog/2012/11/diy-revision-table-manually-updating-your-revi... but somehow I cannot get the rev table values to update
When I look at the custom properties, the values are there but somehow do not flow into the rev table unless i check out and check in.
I was hoping that drawings DO NOT need a checkout/check in with this method of updating the rev table, but simply edit properties, sync and submit to JP to update DWF. Rev table integration is turned off.
Am I missing something?
Regards
Max B
Hi Max,
Can you clarify your statement "Rev Table Integration" is switched off? If you are not using the Vault revision table there is no way to update the table in Inventor / AutoCAD via Vault.
Do you have all of the properties properly mapped to the associated CAD file properties? Can you post a screen shot of your mappings to make sure they all go in the right direction?
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Hi Allan/Chris
See attachment. I thought the original document said this can be done without the aid of the rev table integration.
Are you saying it cannot be done without the rev table integration being turned ON, and using lifecycle state transition to update rev table and submit job to JP?
Max
AutoCAD 2013; AuoCAD Electrical 2013; IV 2013 Professional: Tube and Pipe, Frame Generator, Content Center; Vault Professional 2013: Client, ECOUsing the instructions in the blog post, you can update the rev table manually (without Job Processor), but Vault Rev table does need to be active.
I don't use this anymore, but for a while we were controlling revisions with this method, using the sync properties to update the rev table. What it DID require us to do, however, was to Release the drawing (to lock in the revision information) the change state to a Quick Change (which did not bump revision but allowed changes), then Sync Properties and update the Visualization. The Rev Table would update, and then we put the file back to Released. We used a series of user Defined Properties to fill in the fields in the rev block, but what info you put in there is totally up to you. You also need to make sure that Inventor's revision table style (in styles manager) is set up to use the same properties. Plus I can see in your image that you visualization needs updating.
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Hi Max,
Once I had the procedure working, I never had to open a file to get it to update, unless it was an older file that did not have the Vault Revision table already set up in Styles Manager. It does have to be there, and it has to be set as your defualt in Object Defaults. So, in the case of older drawings, there was a need to open the drawing and get it set up for these new procedures. Vault Rev table will not automatically update an older revision table that was a standard Inventor table. It doesn't know how to deal with those. The Vault UDP's need to be mapped (in Vault client) to the matching iproperties in Inventor. Then in Inventor the Vault Revision table needs to be added to your styles manager with those same iproperties on it... AND (as you showed in your image above) the Vault Rev Table needs to also be pointing to these same properties. (lot of setup). Once all of that is in place, and th VRT is enabled... AND you set the changes mentioned in that blog post... (whew), it SHOULD work.
You mention Items.... if you are going to be using a lot of Items, you'll have to make a decision on how you want to handle your revision control. Item revision vs File revision.... pick one, but don't try to do both. I just went through this myself over here, and took a class last week at AU that talked about the very same thing. Item revisions do NOT have any automatic revision tables... but (I'm not supposed to do this)... if you look at the blog in my signature, you'll see how I semi-automated this, with the help of some very talented people in these forums. Do a bunch of research and then make a strategic decision on what works best for your company, before you put a whole lot of energy into trying to make either one work. Once you've picked a direction, start chipping away at it... we can help with that. Most of what I know about Vault I learned from the help files, and right here in these forums.
Chris Benner
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The main purpose of categories in Vault is just that, to define the lifecycle and revision schemes. They also can be used to determine what properties are attached for editing Items. (Item categories). Since we moved to Items a few months ago, I've pared down our categories to 2.... one that uses an Alpha revision scheme, and everything else which uses a Numeric scheme. It will really simplify things moving forward from here.
Best of luck as you keep going on this, don't hesitate to ask more questions... believe me, I'm certain I ask more than I answer!
Chris Benner
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