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Message 1 of 21
locobrotha
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Touch Screen Interface

Hello All,

               Will autodesk be heading in the area of touch screen interfaces ever. I miss the old style drafting boards and feel that modelling / drafting would be so much nicer on one of these http://www.promultis.info/promultis-drafting-table/ rather than an uncomforatable chair and a cheap as mouse. 

               Im sure it wouldnt take much messing around to find a UI that would suit this style and would happily test for you if you provided the equipment Smiley Very Happy

           

              Looking forward to the future of design.

 

Rob

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Message 2 of 21
jggerth1
in reply to: locobrotha

That was tried back in the late 90s early naughts - with some oddball sony pen screen.  didn't seem to sell

Message 3 of 21
graemev
in reply to: locobrotha

Ooo!  A huge touch screen!  It's...  It's... It's...  SMUDGE-TASTIC!!!

 

Thanks, but no.  I'll keep the nice upright, glare-free monitor I have now and let all the paperwork, notes and field sketches lay on the desk below it in the manner they do now.

Message 4 of 21
pendean
in reply to: locobrotha

AutoCAD 2014 (and other Autodesk 2014 software) and WIndows 8 64bit is all you need: help yourself and let us know how that fat-finger-point-precision-drafting PLUS double-finger-tap-right-click thing works out for you.

 

Reality is never as much fun as movie magic 😞

Message 5 of 21

I'd certainly try large-format touch-screens at some point.

I've been eyeing them as viewers for our staff (they need to review and comment on prints, no actual drafting), since they've been resisting electronic plan review attempts so far.

It's gotten better with buying larger monitors for my shared workstations, and with some of the more seasoned staff retiring. The time will be ripe soon, at least for that application, I'm certain.



Melanie Stone
Facilities Data Management
IWMS / CAFM / CMMS / AutoCAD / Archibus / Tririga / Planon / MRI Manhattan CenterStone / Revit / data normalization, data mapping, reporting and process documentation
mistressofthedorkness.blogspot.com/
Message 6 of 21

>>>... (they need to review and comment on prints, no actual drafting)...<<<
Have you tried them out on AutoCAD360 (old WS) on a Tablet (for finger experience) or a webbrower in the interim?
Message 7 of 21
troma
in reply to: pendean

I think it would be good for reviewing, especially if it was e-ink technology rather than a traditional monitor. Then the drawing would basically look like a piece of paper.

On the other end of the scale, how long before we all get 3D monitors so we can really see our 3D models in 3D?

Mark Green

Working on Civil 3D in Canada

Message 8 of 21

Dean,

I've showed them plans on my iPad, but, the screens are still too small for the type of detail work they'd be reviewing (large drawing sets). They liked it for our small office renovation, but, they wouldn't want to mark up a set on it.

Web browser is a definite no-go. They use trueview and design review on my workstations with the big monitors, but, they're not currently interested in signing up for a new site and learning that. It took me long enough to get them trained up on the existing stuff.


Melanie Stone
Facilities Data Management
IWMS / CAFM / CMMS / AutoCAD / Archibus / Tririga / Planon / MRI Manhattan CenterStone / Revit / data normalization, data mapping, reporting and process documentation
mistressofthedorkness.blogspot.com/
Message 9 of 21
locobrotha
in reply to: locobrotha

Surely you would refine a little with a Stylus. I dont imagine using my fat sausages for drafting. Perhaps a dedicated area for rotate pan and orbit commands, and touch style ribbons down the left of the screen. pop up number pads for accurate dimensioning. 

I can see a decent interface using touch screen's revolutionising the way we design the way CAD did over the board.  Personally I hate sitting at a computer all day. i feel the need to slouch in my chair and get sore eyes from looking at the screen all day, a draughting board setup is alot more ergonomic than a chair. (unless your company likes to keep their employee's happy)

 

Also remember that our programs are getting way smarter every year programming a set of parameters that make up a wall is alot easier than drafting / modelling a wall, 

there is no reason why Revit, Inventor perhaps even AutoCAD wouldnt succeed on such an interface.

 

If i had the money spare I would probaly invest in a screen (make my own frame and such) and test, but alas im a poor employee for now.

 

 

Message 10 of 21
jggerth1
in reply to: locobrotha

ergonomic???  IIRC back in the days of Mayline, Rapidiograph, and Leroy,  the only group that had more back trouble thann architects/drafters were truck drivers.  Working at a drafting table is a boon to chiropractors, but not good for my back.  Given the choice between back pain and RSI in the wrist, I'll take the latter.

Message 11 of 21
pendean
in reply to: locobrotha

I have a touchscreen: granted it's a Win7 device (not keyboard), but the effect is still the same. if you are interested I blogged about it last year:
http://ltisacad.blogspot.com/search/label/Touchscreen
and here is another on a desktop setup (which addresses the keyboard limitation):
http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/blog/2012/12/touching-autocad-on-the-desktop.html
As you can see from true world examples, the program is just not there yet, and niether it the technology.
Message 12 of 21
dgorsman
in reply to: pendean

We need the Star Trek TNG "Okudagram" interface before it becomes practical.  And then there's the capital investment cost.

 

"Touching AutoCAD on the desktop"... erm... not sure I should "touch" that phrase, given the drizzle of forum spam.  😄

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"I don't know" is the beginning of knowledge, not the end.


Message 13 of 21

Ah, interesting read there, Dean, thanks for sharing.


Melanie Stone
Facilities Data Management
IWMS / CAFM / CMMS / AutoCAD / Archibus / Tririga / Planon / MRI Manhattan CenterStone / Revit / data normalization, data mapping, reporting and process documentation
mistressofthedorkness.blogspot.com/
Message 14 of 21
troma
in reply to: pendean

Dean, both of those links talk about the pinch-to-zoom feature, and both say  'bring together to zoom in, move apart to zoom out.'  This seems backwards to me.  On my Android, and on other touch-screen devices I've seen, it is always pinch together to zoom out and pull apart to zoom in.  Is this a typo, or an Autodesk 'feature' added to confuse?


Mark Green

Working on Civil 3D in Canada

Message 15 of 21
AllenJessup
in reply to: locobrotha

I use a stylus a lot on my tablet. My fingers are on the larger side. I've also seen where someone used one of the 3d scanning interfaces from a gaming box, I forget which one, for an AutoCAD interface. I think I'd like that better.

 

Allen



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 16 of 21

I would love to see a scaled down version of Revit or autocad Archtecture.

 

For my personal use I would be happy with everthing just being 2D.  I just need walls, door, windows, dimensions, note, etc.  I want to use this on something like the surface pro 3 when doing and onsite measure of a building.  Start with the ouside just draw a box then dimensions it and change the dimensions to match what is onsite and have the walls adjust to match just like in Revit.  Then draw the interior walls, doors, windows, stairs, colunms, etc.  I would be happy with 2 doors (single and double doors) and one of everything else.  After you place a window or door  the first thing to pop up on the screen will be width and height of window/door, then at note box will pop up where you can quickly enter any important information.  Then for door you can quickly click the arrow to change swing and direction.   Followed by dimension it off the nearst item of your choosing and have to snap to that location just like in Revit. At any time you can select an item (window, door, wall, etc) and if there is a camera on your tablet, or touchscreen computer you could take a picture that will be linked to that item.  Beyond that the ability to do a freehand sketch plus some notes/tags to quickly enter important information like ceiling height, demo a wall/window/door, etc

 

This will not need to do anything in 3D, no rendering, etc.  It would be just to quickly create or note up a plan view while on site.  Architecture work most often is remodeling an existing building/space instead of building from scratch.  So this would be for for on site initial walk throughs when the existing building has to be drawn up.

 

 

Message 17 of 21

REVIT LT has been out for quite a while now.
ARCH canot be scaled down, that would just be plain AutoCAD (or AutoCAD LT): 3D isn't the reason ARCH is more expensive, so scaling it down is pointless.
Message 18 of 21

take a look at http://www.worldcadaccess.com/blog/2015/09/guided-tour-through-arcsite-.html

 

maybe close enough to what you want.

 

IIRC Graebert is putting some moves on mobile cad that might do you some good to look into as well.

Message 19 of 21

Obviously you failed to understand the entire point of my message.  When I said a scalled down version I was not refering to the LT versions.  I want a touch screen version of Revit where I can quickly draw a room with my finger or a stylus, dimension it and add a genric window or door.  I want a ribbon with minimal icons.  Icons for Wall, Door, Window, dimensions, etc.  So when I am on site for my initial walk through/measure I can quickly create a basic drawing of the existing building.  Then when I get back the office I can let the full version of the software take over from there.

Message 20 of 21

I have never heard of this but based on looking at it this might just be the best I will get for the time being. 

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