The Break Room (Non-Technical Discussions)

[#1]

Okay, for those of us that are sole proprietors & rely on Autodesk products, this is just cruel. 

We faithfully entered into a subscription with Autodesk, paid our invoices on time & this is what we get for our loyalty?  A $250 increase in our subscriptions for a suite containing products that we have never, nor will ever use. 

I am not a consulting engineer & will never use the MEP & Structural products contained in this new suite that I am forced to pay for just for the privilege of being able to use my subscription.

Gee, thanks a lot, Autodesk.  You've made me feel real special.

[#2]

OK.

I'm not saying you're wrong. But since there are a number of Autodesk products and Suites containing different products. We'd have a better understanding of what you're going through if you named your product and suite. Also a link to the description of the new policy your talking about would be helpful.

I'm a Civil 3D user and we were not forced to purchase a suite.

[#3]

Hi Allen,

The message I got from Autodesk was this:

Dear Autodesk Subscription Customer, We would like to inform you that effective January 7, 2013, Autodesk is discontinuing the following suites: ▪ AutoCAD® Revit® Architecture Suite ▪ AutoCAD® Revit® MEP Suite ▪ AutoCAD® Revit® Structure Suite As an Autodesk customer with AutoCAD Revit Architecture Suite, AutoCAD Revit MEP Suite, or AutoCAD Revit Structure Suite software on a current* Subscription contract you will automatically be upgraded** to Autodesk® Building Design Suite Premium. You will receive an email notification when Building Design Suite Premium becomes available for download on Subscription Center at www.autodesk.com/subscriptionlogin (on or after January 7, 2013). If you have elected to receive box shipments of products, you will receive a USB drive containing Building Design Suite Premium. Autodesk Building Design Suite Premium includes: ▪ Autodesk® Revit® 2013, a new version of software based on the Revit® platform that includes all of the functionality in Autodesk® Revit® Architecture 2013, Autodesk® Revit® Structure 2013, and Autodesk® Revit® MEP 2013 software in a single, comprehensive application. Learn more ▪ AutoCAD® 2013 ▪ AutoCAD® Architecture 2013 ▪ AutoCAD® MEP 2013 ▪ AutoCAD® Structural Detailing 2013 ▪ Autodesk® Navisworks® Simulate 2013 ▪ Autodesk® Showcase® 2013 ▪ Autodesk® SketchBook® Designer 2013 ▪ Autodesk® 3ds Max® Design 2013 ▪ Access to certain Autodesk® 360 cloud services, such as rendering, energy analysis, and structural analysis. Learn More about Autodesk Building Design Suite Premium If you have questions, please contact your Autodesk Authorized Reseller, or Autodesk sales representative.

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& it was verified by my reseller.

I currently hold a subscription for Revit Architecture Suite.

[#4]

I don't know what your needs are. But if you only need Revit, tell your reseller to downgrade your subscription to Autodesk Revit Architecture 2013, a standalone application.

Whenever Autodesk comes up with a new and simplified upgrade policy. It means they "simply" want more of your money. This will be my 30th year using their products. So I've seen quite a few.

[#5]

Suites have always had a hidden sting: I resisted the initial "value" because unless every user really and truly uses the package every day they have always been a waste of money IMHO.
So far that has proven to be the correct approach: we are only paying for what we have only ever used, no idle "extras" here.

Sorry you got stung, this world still remains a buyer-beware world: of it's too good to be true, it always is. Even at Autodesk.

[#6]

We need something like this for AutoCAD and REVIT:

http://inthefold.typepad.com/in_the_fold/2012/12/what-could-you-do-with-90-days-of-maya-and-3ds-max....

[#7]

Yeah, I'm not thrilled either.

I use the Revit MEP Suite. Most of our work is still being managed through AutoCAD/AutoCAD MEP, but, we're doing a transition from CAD to BIM, so, 10% of our campus is already RVT.

Only having the one license on my budget means the total cost increase isn't huge, but, as a percentage of subscription increase... it's enough to make me mighty irritated.

[#8]

We only need simple AutoCAD and Revit but now have to buy all of these other products as well. The cost of just getting the two as stand alone products is just slightly less that the suite we are being forced into.

[#9]

AD should offer a build your own suite option.  They can even tell us we have to include a certain number of products... but can choose from a list of acceptable items.  Then price the suite based on what we need for our companies, not what they assume we need.  For example, I use Product Design Suite, which comes with a ton of stuff I've never even opened... but does not include P&ID which I need.  I know... P&ID is in Plan Design Suite... but Electrical is not.  I need both.  I'd gladly trade some stuff for P&ID to make the perfect customized suite for my small company.

[#10]

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cbenner wrote:

AD should offer a build your own suite option.  They can even tell us we have to include a certain number of products... but can choose from a list of acceptable items.  Then price the suite based on what we need for our companies, not what they assume we need. 

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Preach it, brother!

I had to opine on this for my niche because the suite I'm being stuck with isn't what I'd hand-pick for myself

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