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AllenJessup
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Re: Boo Hoo my Trackball's Dead!

01-11-2013 08:16 AM in reply to: AllenJessup

So I brought in my backup trackball today and ordered a new one from Amazon. I hadn't remembered that my backup was a version 1.0. It's fine but the pick button needs a precise movement that isn't as forgiving a the V 2.0.

 

As I mentioned. I also have an old Microsoft PS2 mouse hooked up. So I got the funny idea of using the mouse just for hitting the pick button. It actually works quite well. If it weren't for the need to keep my left hand on the keyboard to type all my left hand based Aliased. I might be tempted to adopt the 2 handed style permanently.:smileysurprised:

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Message 22 of 39 (950 Views)

Re: Boo Hoo my Trackball's Dead!

01-11-2013 08:16 AM in reply to: AllenJessup

AllenJessup wrote:

I knocked my Trackball Explorer of my desk this morning and broke an internal plastic part. Krazy glue fixed that. But then I broke of a pin trying to reseat the ribbon cable. All our IT will supply is the cheap mouse that comes with the computers. So I guess I'll try to solder the pin back in this weekend.

 

I just needed someone to complain to.


I hear you.  I am still using a couple of original logitech Trackman Marble FX's:

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These have been rotated through daily use since about 1997.  I think they stopped making them because they were too good/durable.  In 1999 or 200, I decided I wanted a scroll wheel, so I switched to the Microsoft Trackball Explorer.  Not quite as ergonomic, but the extra buttons plus the scroll wheel made up for it (nice in AutoCAD).  Unfortunately, in 2 years, I went through 3 of them- the main button always stopped working.  Seems the contacts MS used were not quite as durable.

 

I now also have one of the wireless Trackman as well:

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Still not quite as ergonomic as the original Marble FX, but the drivers play well with Win7/Revit.  The "Wireless" part of it is kind of a joke- though they are still selling this (it's the newest trackball model, if you don't count the "marble mouse") it  uses the early-2000s wireless connector of a 2-foot cord with a puck on the end of it.  I wish they would rerelease it with the micro-usb receiver that sits flush with the computer.

 

This doesn't get daily use, but I've had it for about 5 years and it still works well.

 

I could never use a mouse full time.  My hand goes numb.

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Re: Boo Hoo my Trackball's Dead!

01-11-2013 08:18 AM in reply to: Wanderer-MOTD

Wanderer-MOTD wrote:

"The majority of people on the Engineering staff here are actually left-handed..."


 Well, they say that the smartest and most creative people are left-handed.

 

btw - did I mention I'm primarily left-handed? Actually, I'm basically ambidextrous except for writing.

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Re: Boo Hoo my Trackball's Dead!

01-11-2013 08:25 AM in reply to: CADastrophe

CADastrophe wrote:

Wanderer-MOTD wrote:

"The majority of people on the Engineering staff here are actually left-handed..."


 Well, they say that the smartest and most creative people are left-handed.

 

btw - did I mention I'm primarily left-handed? Actually, I'm basically ambidextrous except for writing.


I have heard that. :smileywink:

 

lol, no, I don't believe you'd mentioned. I'm the same way. :smileyvery-happy:

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Re: Boo Hoo my Trackball's Dead!

01-11-2013 08:28 AM in reply to: CADastrophe

CADastrophe wrote
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 Well, they say that the smartest and most creative people are left-handed.

 

 



Da-vinci, Hendrix.. yup.

 

I play the guitar right-handed, as lefty guitars are uncommon secondhand, and thus expensive. I think Hendrix had this problem too, though he ended up playing the guitar upside down.

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Message 26 of 39 (936 Views)

Re: Boo Hoo my Trackball's Dead!

01-11-2013 08:35 AM in reply to: Joe.Charpentier

Interesting. I started with a Marble FX. What OS are you using it on. I broke out my old one yesterday and figured I'd use that for the rest of the day. It's not Plug n Play and I couldn't find any 64 bit drivers for it. Everything I read said that it wouldn't work on Vista or above.

 

I liked the Marble FX very much. But my boss at my second job (now defunct) happened to pick up a TBE. I found that I liked having a scroll wheel and (at least for me) it's ergonomic. I also have the wireless trackman as well. But I find it difficult to use. I have to bear-paw too much to make it comfortable.

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Re: Boo Hoo my Trackball's Dead!

01-11-2013 08:36 AM in reply to: GilesPhillips

GilesPhillips wrote

"Da-vinci, Hendrix.. yup.

I play the guitar right-handed, as lefty guitars are uncommon secondhand, and thus expensive. I think Hendrix had this problem too, though he ended up playing the guitar upside down."


 

Yep. I play (not well) guitar right-handed, though I can flip it over and play a little like that. I stopped doing that because it's a pain to remember two separate sets of chords! I also play piano right-handed. (kidding, of course..)

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Re: Boo Hoo my Trackball's Dead!

01-11-2013 08:38 AM in reply to: CADastrophe

CADastrophe wrote:
I also play piano right-handed. (kidding, of course..)

That would really mess up some heads - restringing a piano so the low notes were on the right... hehe

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Re: Boo Hoo my Trackball's Dead!

01-11-2013 08:41 AM in reply to: GilesPhillips

GilesPhillips wrote:
I play the guitar right-handed, as lefty guitars are uncommon secondhand, and thus expensive. I think Hendrix had this problem too, though he ended up playing the guitar upside down.

I knew one guy that did that, but he had to take off the knobs 'cause he kept scaring the daylights out of himself when he hit 'Vol' !  :smileyhappy:

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Re: Boo Hoo my Trackball's Dead!

01-11-2013 08:46 AM in reply to: AllenJessup

AllenJessup wrote:

Interesting. I started with a Marble FX. What OS are you using it on. I broke out my old one yesterday and figured I'd use that for the rest of the day. It's not Plug n Play and I couldn't find any 64 bit drivers for it. Everything I read said that it wouldn't work on Vista or above.

 

I liked the Marble FX very much. But my boss at my second job (now defunct) happened to pick up a TBE. I found that I liked having a scroll wheel and (at least for me) it's ergonomic. I also have the wireless trackman as well. But I find it difficult to use. I have to bear-paw too much to make it comfortable.


I'm in Revit now, which doesn't allow for as much button customization as AutoCAD.  Basically, I only use 3 buttons for Revit: Left-click, Ricght-click and the larger "Middle Button" is used for navigation in Revit.

Standard Middle button+mouse move is pan, Ctrl+Middle button+mouse move  is zoom, Shift+Middle button+mouse move  is rotate/orbit.

Since I only need this, the windows default PS2 mouse driver works for me.

 

In AutoCAD, I used one button plus combinations of modifier keys for X/Y/Z offset snaps (thank you, partial menus!)  I'm pretty sure they added something like that in an early 2000-era release to the standard snapping.

I think I also had a button for frequently-used lisp routines. (It's been a while)

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