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SeanFarr
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ASME-Y14.5-2009 Dimension and Tolerancing

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01-08-2013 09:59 AM

Does anyone know where this standard can be purchased?

 

Either hard copy or digital format,

 

Would like like the hard-copy, but I suppose I could print out the digital format and make my own hard copy.

 

I found a hard copy, but it is a little out of my budget:

 

http://www.amazon.ca/ASME-Y14-5-Dimensioning-Tolerancing-2009/dp/0791831922/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UT...

 

Thanks!!

 

Sean Farr

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Re: ASME-Y14.5-2009 Dimension and Tolerancing

01-08-2013 12:39 PM in reply to: SeanFarr

http://www.asme.org/products/codes---standards/dimensioning-and-tolerancing


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SeanFarr
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Re: ASME-Y14.5-2009 Dimension and Tolerancing

01-08-2013 01:11 PM in reply to: Lance_White

Have you purchased standards from here previously?

Is worthwhile to pay for the hard copy or can the digital copy be purchased and printed? (no print protection)

 

Thanks for info!!

 

Sean

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Re: ASME-Y14.5-2009 Dimension and Tolerancing

01-09-2013 05:43 AM in reply to: SeanFarr

No I haven't bought from them but they are they people that developed the spec (or at least publish it) you are looking for so they are proboly a good bet.


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Light_Guy
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Re: ASME-Y14.5-2009 Dimension and Tolerancing

01-09-2013 06:21 AM in reply to: SeanFarr

Was going to share my copy with you but I can't upload it. You might want to have your company look into an IHS subscription. We have it here and it is great! You have electronic access to all the standards you could ever want, including the whole ASME Y14 collection. That is where I got mine from. You can also order hard copies from them as well. I do not know costs though, sorry.

 

http://www.ihs.com/products/industry-standards/index.aspx

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SeanFarr
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Re: ASME-Y14.5-2009 Dimension and Tolerancing

01-09-2013 07:10 AM in reply to: Light_Guy

OK, I doubt my employer will want to pay for a subscription, this was for my own personal gain. No one here has any idea what Inventor/CAD is, they assume is a program that makes drawings. I have spent the last 6 months teaching myself Inventor 2012/2013. When I was in college I last used Inventor 6, ha ha. I am quite comfortable modeling now with Inventor (comfortable...haha not an expert), but now my drawing/detailing skills are lacking. I find myself always second guessing and I actually don't have anyone here to verify with or discuss issues. I am thinking that this standard would be a great reference tool for most of my concerns and questions.

 


Correct me if I am wrong but ASME-Y14.5-2009 is the standard used for dimension and tolerancing in North America?

 

 

 

This standard will help with detailing drawings, but I have also been searching around for engineering office set-ups.
Meaning, how to begin, creating good practices and operating procedures. There is much more to a engineering office workflow than just buying Inventor and  pumping out drawings of parts and products. I can't seem to find any sources, but i may be searching with the wrong terminology. Is there such a source whether it is a book or manual, or is it a service where you can pay for people to come in and set up.

 

It has been a year since I started here and I already feel lost in a maze of drawings, because of organization issues and lack of proper workflows. There is no project set-ups, just demands from my supervisor to create drawings on demand.

 

haha, well that is a little off topic,

 

 

Thanks Everyone for the help with the standards issue.!!

 

Have a good day!

 

Sean Farr

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Light_Guy
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Re: ASME-Y14.5-2009 Dimension and Tolerancing

01-09-2013 09:19 AM in reply to: SeanFarr

The whole ASME Y14 series would be good reference to be honest. Not much has changed in them though over the past few years. As for standards and practices, search the Blogs and CAD magazine archives. (Cadalyst, AUGI are good places to start) Heck, even Google is loaded with answers for cad jockies these days. It is one of the first places I look for answers. YouTube is great as well.

 

WOW! Your office still isn't on the CAD bandwagon?? I heard there were folks still using release 14 AutoCAD but nothing to that extent.  I know when I first got my boss to allow me to go electronic over 20 years ago it was a very eye opening experience for him. GOOD LUCK!

 

You can also buy from IHS without a subscription, hard copy or electronic.

http://global.ihs.com/search_res.cfm?currency_code=USD&customer_id=21254E2A510A&oshid=21254E2A5D0A&s...

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SeanFarr
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Re: ASME-Y14.5-2009 Dimension and Tolerancing

01-09-2013 09:49 AM in reply to: Light_Guy

How much does a subscription cost? it says I have to email them a request form. I see it is $185 for the ASME Y14.5.

My supervisor is the owner of this company that he started with his brother. He is an electrician by trade and started out by selling re-furbished equipment. The company has grown lots over the last 5 years and they are trying to incorporate an 'engineering' department. We have some products that he had designed by 3rd party offices. But now he would like to rid of the cost and get myself to produce this designs so we can source out cheaper ways to build. And also they have ideas for future products. But as I have mentioned, they don't have any workflows, or have any understanding of the software and its capabilities. I try to explain but it is like I am speaking some foreign language to them. So I am left to explain by example. Which has been working, but when I try to explain to them about project set-ups and workflows, planning, time to create drawings, drawing reviews, they don't know if I actually know what I am doing or just creating more work or excuses for bad drawings, or deadlines not being met. 

Another example, see picture of a scoop tram:

they want me to 'draw' one of these up that is sitting in our yard?!!? and have it done in a week or so...

 

If i was replaced with an engineer, can this be done?

 

Thanks

 

Sean

 

 

 

 

Sean Farr
Product Designer at TESInc.ca

Inventor Professional 2014-Update 2 - AutoCAD Electrical 2014
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Light_Guy
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Re: ASME-Y14.5-2009 Dimension and Tolerancing

01-09-2013 10:34 AM in reply to: SeanFarr

WOW, if you can "draw" that up in a WEEK, good on ya!

 

No idea on the subscription cost. I think there was a phone number there you can call to find out though. I work for a company with over 15K employees so there are other folk that deal with costs like that for us.

 

As for being replaced by an Engineer - I don't think so. Here, Engineers don't "draw". They mark up, approve and run the calcs. Designers do the drafting work and more and more the senior designers are doing basic grunt work.

If you are pretty much it for the "drafting" department, I don't know that I would worry to much about setting up official standards and guidelines for the company. Make them as you go and then if you were to get help, implement the procedures beyond your own desk. Trying to explain them will only get you and them frustrated. Having them ready when the time comes will look good and they will understand it more then as well.

JMHO of course.

Paul Hamor
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AllenJessup
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Message 10 of 15 (2,364 Views)

Re: ASME-Y14.5-2009 Dimension and Tolerancing

01-09-2013 10:49 AM in reply to: SeanFarr

It depends on whether you need to produce a drawing that is a sketch of that piece of equipment or detailed schematics. If you just need something that looks like the loader. You can by one for $69 @ http://www.the3dstudio.com/product_search.aspx?id_category_2=737&price_min=1&ext=3ds&level=1&sort=ra...

 

You'd need to use the 3DSIN command to import it in to AutoCAD

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