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nishit78
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Re: Time to reach ejection temperature, Part (3D) vs. Temperature (3D)

03-23-2011 08:14 AM in reply to: solymossy

But that does not mean you have to add the fill time. Atleast not that i am aware of. This is turning out to be a good learning for me. I hope someone at moldflow can help.

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solymossy
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Re: Time to reach ejection temperature, Part (3D) vs. Temperature (3D)

03-23-2011 08:19 AM in reply to: nishit78

 Yes, it would be for me also.

 

 However I think that You have. I mean try to animate Time to reach from 0 till the end. At zero, there IS material in the cavity... That was my main doubt when I'd asked about it in the first place back in august or what.

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nishit78
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Re: Time to reach ejection temperature, Part (3D) vs. Temperature (3D)

03-23-2011 08:26 AM in reply to: solymossy

I think the part being filled with the resin at melt temp is just an initial condition "assumption" necessary for a stand alone cooling analysis (which i feel is a great approximation not considering fill+pack)

 

Personally i do not use the "time to reach" result very much for that exact reason. It is just an approximate result in absence of any other info (fill+pack)

 

I'd really appreciate if someone from moldflow looks as this and helps.

 

Balaz.. Are you based in the U.S.?

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solymossy
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Re: Time to reach ejection temperature, Part (3D) vs. Temperature (3D)

03-23-2011 08:28 AM in reply to: nishit78

 No, I am in Europe, Hungary. But I have skype! :smileyhappy:

 

 pm me at solymossybalazs, if that was why You've asked

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nishit78
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Re: Time to reach ejection temperature, Part (3D) vs. Temperature (3D)

03-23-2011 08:32 AM in reply to: solymossy

Yes that is why i asked but i can't access skype and those things at work.

 

I also wanted to say that the main difference between the "time to reach" and "temperature" result will be evident in the gate area.

 

In the "time to reach" the gate area will freeze just as any other area in the part

However,  in the "temperature" result it will freeze differently.

 

In my experience, this is true for every single part that i have analyzed.

 

This is on a slightly different note but just wanted to point out a key difference between these two results.

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solymossy
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Re: Time to reach ejection temperature, Part (3D) vs. Temperature (3D)

03-23-2011 08:35 AM in reply to: nishit78

 Can you contact me over skype from home, if You have time? It would be interresting to discuss some things! (I'll try to be awake for an extended period of time if You'll have some time this evening. (It's already 16:35 at here...)

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nishit78
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Re: Time to reach ejection temperature, Part (3D) vs. Temperature (3D)

03-23-2011 08:37 AM in reply to: solymossy

In terms for hrs it will take me another 6 hrs to do that. It is 11:40 a.m. here I get home at around 5:00-5:30 p.m.

So will after 6 hrs be ok.

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solymossy
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Re: Time to reach ejection temperature, Part (3D) vs. Temperature (3D)

03-23-2011 08:38 AM in reply to: nishit78

 Ok!

 

 I'll be there! :smileyhappy:

 

Best regards,

 

 Balázs

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nishit78
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Re: Time to reach ejection temperature, Part (3D) vs. Temperature (3D)

03-23-2011 08:40 AM in reply to: solymossy

Ok i will connect over skype.

 

But anyway, our current discussion is still unresolved right?????

You say we add the fill time

I saw we do not add the fill time

 

Hahahahaha

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