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tony.ridley
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Registered: ‎09-07-2011
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whats going on with 3d solids

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04-13-2012 07:29 AM

Hi,

 

I have a simple model to check as a 3d volumetric structure.  Its 2 side by side I beams, joined with plate elements on the flanges and stiffened on the webs too.

 

Problem 1:

I mesh it using a pretty coarse mesh, it takes 25 minutes to mesh.  When I run the calculation I get an error saying mesh error (ie not refined enough).  When I change the mesh parameters, it then takes 2,5 hours to mesh.  Then I get the same mesh error anyway.  Rafal has already answered this for me here: http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/Autodesk-Robot-Structural/Distorted-Element-in-3D-solids/m-p/3213330/h...  But I'm still not happy with this functionality.  Honestly, for the time it takes just to mesh the solid to this level of mesh density (a few hours - seriously), my boss will just give the job to the ANSYS/Strand 7 user in our office and I end up looking silly :smileysad:.   I ask how can it possiby take this long to mesh a simple object. 

 

Problem 2:

After I define the solid, I apply a load to one side.  If I click on this side in the object inspector, it highlights it red, so I know I am selecting the right side.  But when I apply planar load to that side, it applies the load to a completely different one.  I have previously reported the error - http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/Autodesk-Robot-Structural/Adding-Loads-to-3d-solids/m-p/3213336/highli... -  but I'm not really happy with the response (sorry Pawel, nothing personal:smileyhappy:). 

 

Sorry to bring up 2 old issues at once, but I really had a bad day in Robot today.  :smileymad:

 

I love Robot for many reasons, but I can't get why the volumetric solids module is even included while it's so clunky.  Strand 7 really makes Robot look silly today. 

 

Tony

 

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tony.ridley
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Registered: ‎09-07-2011

Re: whats going on with 3d solids

04-13-2012 03:45 PM in reply to: tony.ridley

bump.........................:smileyindifferent:

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Rafal.Gaweda
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Re: whats going on with 3d solids

04-15-2012 11:55 PM in reply to: tony.ridley

Tony,

 

In fact Robot is \ was not designed to handle complex solids. It was intended to allow users to model large foundations, with rather simple geometry, rather extruded \ revolved.

For something more complex we recommend using ACIS modeling. Meshing times - it depends but nothing to compare with ANSYS.

 

From curiosity - please send us model.



Rafal Gaweda
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tony.ridley
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Registered: ‎09-07-2011

Re: whats going on with 3d solids

04-16-2012 01:05 AM in reply to: Rafal.Gaweda

Rafal,

 

Thanks for your honest answer.  I will send the model at the end of this week.

 

Tony

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