Bonjour,
je veux faire une analyse temporelle d'une structure non lineaire (passerelle haubanée).
J'ai mon cas 1 poids propre, que j'ai transformé en masse
cas 2 analyse modale
cas 3 le cas de charge de piéton
cas 4 analyse temporelle, methode de Newmark, j'ai défini ma fonction et mon cas 3
je n'obtiens pas les bonnes valeurs d'accélération.
quand j'affiche les réactions, j'obtiens presque les memes valeurs dans le cas 1 et 3
est ce que le problème vient de là??
merci d'avance
All cases must be pdelta.
NOTE - now calculations will last at least ~1,5h with THA NON tolerance 0.001, with tol 0.0001 - 2,5h
File with results: https://www.filemail.com/dl.aspx?id=HHLXBXCYWHRISCC
Hi RG,
thank you to take time to look into the model!
I think there is something wrong with the results: because if you look the loads i put
in case 3 "pedestrians" : 12.7N/ml, is almost nothing and the max results of acceleration is
8m/s² !! is there something wrong with the loads taking into account in load case 3?
Next run of calculations over this night (1500 increments).
For now - no
Hopefully next set of results will be available in 10h.
OK, 10h of calculations
when i look in the acceleration results in the model you send to me:
- biggest acceleration are in nodes 116 135 374A376: all are where the cables connect to the rigid element
if we look for node 116, max acceleration is 1m/s²; in node 114=0.37m/s²
- i have to study the acceleration in node 93, where, I think, should be the biggest acceleration, (since, it is the place of maximum deformation in first mode of the modal analysis) maximum value is 0.46m/s² ; the person who studies the problem before me found: 0.15m/s².
- about the main element of the bridge: elements from 366 to 406: today elements mesure 3m, do you think I have
to divide them more?
again thank you to take time on this model!
see you tommorow...
Not converged 😞 starting from 625 step
As you may see from the diagram above it is still "accelerating".
Do you expect such behavior or maybe damping is too low?
Calculation started with settings as below:
expecting results in a week(?) or so.
Hi RG,
i don't understand why its not converged, first time when you send me the model,
you find results.
I see the diagram is still accelerating, I expect such behavior during several time, but should
stabilize after this time, Im looking for the value when it is stabilized. I tried the same analyse during 30s, and it still accelerating, but not much.
Im doing it during 50s right now but calculations take a very long time!!!
concerning your setting: time step of 0.002s may be too long to calculate, don't you think?
Stephane,
i don't understand why its not converged, first time when you send me the model,
you find results.
I see the diagram is still accelerating, I expect such behavior during several time, but should
stabilize after this time, Im looking for the value when it is stabilized. I tried the same analyse during 30s, and it still accelerating, but not much.
As far as I undestood you \ we got very high accelerations in this model that's why we had to dense calculation steps to get maybe more accurate results.
UNfortunatelly such model did not converge.
Im doing it during 50s right now but calculations take a very long time!!!
I hope you are calculating it with Pdelta.
concerning your setting: time step of 0.002s may be too long to calculate, don't you think?
Do we have any choice? This is the setting which MAY lead us to convergence. We will see.
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