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JuZa
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panels displacaments

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09-09-2012 10:54 PM

Hello,

I've got such problem and didn't suceed to solve it, (or find right answer). Problem as you can see in printscreen attached) in walls some displacaments from selfweights are really strange. I veridied file (not once) everything looks fine, I tried to regenerate mesh for these panels, and so on. nothing helped.

I couldn't attache file cause it's too big

 

Julius

 

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tony.ridley
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Re: panels displacaments

09-09-2012 11:23 PM in reply to: JuZa

Don't forget this is displacememt normal to the panel, so it's not vertical deformation you are looking at here.

 

Could be from bending out of plane for that panel?

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JuZa
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Re: panels displacaments

09-09-2012 11:35 PM in reply to: tony.ridley

I understand that but what looks strange to me is difference between two close panels, in one displacament in one dirrections in other opposite, but local axes are in same dirrections

 

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Artur.Kosakowski
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Re: panels displacaments

09-10-2012 01:12 AM in reply to: JuZa

Could you attach this model please?



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JuZa
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Re: panels displacaments

09-10-2012 02:41 AM in reply to: Artur.Kosakowski

well it's quite big 445Mb, so only such way

 

http://host03.pipebytes.com/get.php?key=103155041562867

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Rafal.Gaweda
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Re: panels displacaments

09-10-2012 07:46 AM in reply to: JuZa

Try that:

- turn off kinematic links

- mesh panels,

- freeze meshes

- check FE local coordinate systems comparing to these two panels systems - Z direction.

If they are opposite - remesh panel with wrong direction on FEs, if it does not help, open file in repair mode and then remesh this \ these panels.

 

My results are OK doing nothing with model

 

wnorm.jpg

 



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JuZa
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Re: panels displacaments

09-10-2012 10:16 PM in reply to: Rafal.Gaweda

kinematic links are turned off,

panels are meshed and freezed, (I've tried to remesh them several times).

But FE local coordinate system differs (somehow I could not imagine that it can differ from panels local coordinate system).

But I can't understand anything now i remesh panel, and while looking at FE local system on everything looks fine, but if I just turn local coord system of panels on FE local system (view) changes. Problem about repari mode is that repair mode explodes most of openings (turns them into geometrical objects).

 

 

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JuZa
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Re: panels displacaments

09-10-2012 11:18 PM in reply to: Rafal.Gaweda

Ok, I've tried repair mode and meshing afterwards, nothing helps. For some panels local panel and FE local coord sys z dirrection differs. I'm out of ideas, I'm using RSAP 2013 SP2 (64bt).

I know that this file was created in older version. I can't understand these coord systems differ.

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JuZa
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Re: panels displacaments

09-10-2012 11:46 PM in reply to: Rafal.Gaweda

One idea, can't this be of some stange instalation feature (particular in my pc) or some rubish files left somewhere in pc.

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Rafal.Gaweda
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Re: panels displacaments

09-11-2012 01:48 AM in reply to: JuZa

TRy this: after meshing and freezing meshes copy this panle aside from model ie with vector -10 0 0 and observe LCS of panel and FEs - they should be OK now, then remove copy of this panel.

Check this file: http://wtrns.fr/ypKFBYyD4UNApX0



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