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chimney foundation design

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10-24-2012 03:36 AM

Hi,

I am trying to design a concrete block foundation for a 60m high chimney. from the supplier I have the values of the vertical force and bending moment from the wind.

I am designing the block in RSA as a volume structure model, my question is, if the forces can be applied in a node in the centre of the block, will this be a good solution?? in case not, please any idea in this concern???

 

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Re: chimney foundation design

10-24-2012 03:41 AM in reply to: CKDDIZ

No as you cannot apply bending moment in this way (nodes of solids have only 3 d.o.fs). I'd rather apply the load to a node being slightly above the foundation and connect this node with nodes defined on a circle that stands for the chimney perimeter using rigid links or fake rigid bars.

 

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Re: chimney foundation design

10-24-2012 03:44 AM in reply to: Artur.Kosakowski

Thank you

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Re: chimney foundation design

10-24-2012 04:07 AM in reply to: CKDDIZ

Hi,

what is the option in mesh generation for the nodes to interact???

 

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Re: chimney foundation design

10-24-2012 04:12 AM in reply to: CKDDIZ

What was the way you created the solid? the vertical extrusion of a circle?



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Re: chimney foundation design

10-24-2012 04:16 AM in reply to: Artur.Kosakowski

as an object

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Re: chimney foundation design

10-24-2012 04:39 AM in reply to: CKDDIZ

Try the way shown on the attached pictures.



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Re: chimney foundation design

10-24-2012 05:26 AM in reply to: Artur.Kosakowski

Thanks, in this case it works,

volume modeling is for stresses and displacement results, in order to obtain moments , membrane forces and reinforcement design, the block must be designed as a plate? or it can be done in the volumetric option of RSA?

I tryed to model the block as a plate, placing rigid links and the soil effect is modeled as a area spring (winkler method), in this case there is ERROR - forbiden use of compatible node or a support in slave node of the rigid link. Any idea in this regard??Maybe the use of stiff bars??

 

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Re: chimney foundation design

10-24-2012 05:48 AM in reply to: CKDDIZ

volume modeling is for stresses and displacement results, in order to obtain moments , membrane forces and reinforcement design, the block must be designed as a plate?

 

Correct. These kinds of results are available for panels only.

 

I tryed to model the block as a plate, placing rigid links and the soil effect is modeled as a area spring (winkler method), in this case there is ERROR - forbiden use of compatible node or a support in slave node of the rigid link. Any idea in this regard??Maybe the use of stiff bars??

 

Either stiff bars or Rlinks.

 

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Re: chimney foundation design

10-24-2012 05:50 AM in reply to: CKDDIZ

maybe this is the answer to my previous answer, the block thicknes design option, in this case, includes also the option of parameters of foundation elasticity. and there can be added the values for modulus of subgrade reaction Kz in KN/m3.

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