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Meshing problem of circular steel tank

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TSOFA
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Meshing problem of circular steel tank

The structure is the same that I had seismic load generation problems at the topic "Circular Tank: seismic load generation". I added the steel panel at the roof as shells but I can not get the mesh to be right. Why is that? I tried to run the analysis with the wrong mesh and of course the results were not reasonable ( non uniform deformation under uniform static loading of a symetrical structure).

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Message 2 of 12
Rafal.Gaweda
in reply to: TSOFA

My meshing:

 

tankmesh.jpg



Rafal Gaweda
Message 3 of 12
TSOFA
in reply to: Rafal.Gaweda

This looks better, but I don't know if it's acceptable. I will run the analysis to see if the results are reasonable this time and I let you know, thanks

Message 4 of 12
Artur.Kosakowski
in reply to: TSOFA

You may also consider creating an arch (polyline) and revolving it with number of divisions matching the meshing of the wall.

 

 



Artur Kosakowski
Message 5 of 12
TSOFA
in reply to: Artur.Kosakowski

I want the steel panel roof to match the geometry of the supporting structures (bars). In order to model this supporting structure, I didn't use an arch for the geometry of the main bars (I don't know if it's possible to create a steel bar from an arch). What I did is that I used crooked lines that were forming a very similar geometry. Don't you think that if I use the arch for the panel it will not be assembled properly with the bars?

Message 6 of 12
Artur.Kosakowski
in reply to: TSOFA

You may use the polyline following the nodes of the steel beams instead of the arch (that's why I used the word polyline in my first answer Smiley Happy)

 

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Artur Kosakowski
Message 7 of 12
Rafal.Gaweda
in reply to: TSOFA

 (I don't know if it's possible to create a steel bar from an arch). 

 

Possible.

 

arcbars.jpg



Rafal Gaweda
Message 8 of 12
TSOFA
in reply to: Rafal.Gaweda

I followed your advices of how to mesh the shells and how to create the roof plate ( polyline). Even Though the mesh looks really nice, I still have warnings and when I run the analysis the deformations are not reasonable (I will run it again and send a screen print). The warning of duplicate load cages I assume that is due to the fact I used the same combinations as ULS and SLS.

Message 9 of 12
Rafal.Gaweda
in reply to: TSOFA

1. Do not ever use Kinematic links - turn them off in job preferences

2 walls should be meshed with divisons 1x1 to get coherent mesh with roof.

 

Corrected file attached



Rafal Gaweda
Message 10 of 12
TSOFA
in reply to: Rafal.Gaweda

Thank for the file. At your model DSC algorithm is turned off, should I turn it on or leave it like this? When I turn it on, I have instability type 3 (is this a huge problem?) again.

Message 11 of 12
Rafal.Gaweda
in reply to: TSOFA

leave it as it is


Rafal Gaweda
Message 12 of 12
TSOFA
in reply to: Rafal.Gaweda

This are my results without having DSC algorithm active. Something is wrong. Do you have the same resutls?

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