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Distorted Element

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Message 1 of 22
ingeniero_mena
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Distorted Element

I have "Distorted Element" in a building.

what is the general idea to solve the issue.

 

regards,

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Message 2 of 22

To found it by element number whcih it holds and select panel which it includes probably.

Then try to remesh the panel or manually change the mesh shape where distorted element is.

Sometimes it works, sometimes needs to be recognized by specialist closer.

How it looks like this element?



Jakub Brożonowicz

Global Product Support

Message 3 of 22

it worked,

thanks

Message 4 of 22
djan0521
in reply to: ingeniero_mena

I Have the same problem. The warning comes during analysis as shown in the attached image. How to find the distorted element mentioned in the warning?

Message 5 of 22
Rafal.Gaweda
in reply to: djan0521

How to find the distorted element mentioned in the warning?


This way : http://screencast.com/t/B9xSBXcOtFv



Rafal Gaweda
Message 6 of 22
radunphuong
in reply to: djan0521

I have problem "Distored element"when I calculate my building.Please help me to solve this problem

 

Message 7 of 22
Rafal.Gaweda
in reply to: radunphuong

File please.


Rafal Gaweda
Message 8 of 22

Hi @Jakub.Brozonowicz

I got the same error and I deleted the panel which included that element and redrew it. Still I get the same problem stating the same element is distorted, and now the element in the error does not even  exist in the model since I deleted the panel. What to do? 

Thanks in advance.

Message 9 of 22

Hi @prabath0061

 

Could you attach the file with your model?



Artur Kosakowski
Message 10 of 22

Hi @Artur.Kosakowski,

I have attached the file. 

Thank you.

Message 11 of 22

Hi @prabath0061

 

I'm attaching the model with correctly shaped surface elements but you should consider redefining some parts of your model:

 

arches2.png

 



Artur Kosakowski
Message 12 of 22

Thanks a lot @Artur.Kosakowski

By the way how did you resolve the error?

Message 13 of 22

Hi @prabath0061

 

Buy setting the recommended meshing parameters as presented during the 1st and 2nd Robot webinar which recording I strongly recommend you to watch.

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/robot-structural-analysis-forum/robot-structural-analysis-webinars/td...



Artur Kosakowski
Message 14 of 22

Thanks a lot @Artur.Kosakowski. Will definitely watch that video...

Message 15 of 22

Hi, @Artur.Kosakowski ,

im facing distorted element issue as well here, but when i zoom in, the panels are aligned properly and the opening as well. The meshes look fine too.. but distorted element 80654 error keeps popping up and i cant run my model.MicrosoftTeams-image (5).png MicrosoftTeams-image (6).png

Message 16 of 22

hi @nickanor.tikno

you have panel junction problems all over your model.

It will take a little while for me to analyze them all. I would come back when I could do the geometric analysis. 

Best regards

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Message 17 of 22

Hi @Stephane.kapetanovic,

how can i generate report like your attached pdf file? so i can know the locations of the issues
Yes seems like alot of this issue in my model, perhaps bcs it was imported from Revit model. I tried to join the panels edges together by re-defining the panels contours again, but the problem persist..

nickanortikno_0-1639379798270.png

 

Message 18 of 22

hi @nickanor.tikno 

sometimes, a panel which is twisted cannot be modified, it has to be redone. To do this, copy all the geopoints in Excel for example, modify them and recreate another panel. There is a tool available on the forum to quickly edit the coordinates of the panels. 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/robot-structural-analysis-forum/rounding-up-coordinates-api/td-p/3430...

When you are in Revit, you do not have any warning for geometry, it is only when you do the calculation approach and the model analysis that you can notice it. On Revit, extra care should be taken with the panel connections.

Best regards

Message 19 of 22

hi @ingeniero_mena 

sorry for confusion with topic of @nickanor.tikno.

As precisely explained by @Artur.Kosakowski in message 11, panel 1794 must be completely redone to align it with the curve of panel 1430. As the arcs are segmented, it is necessary to take at least the characteristic points of the curve and the number exact division or opt to redefine the panels point by point.

Could you share your corrected file ?

image.png

Curved panels 895 932 959 988A1123P27 could be replaced by straight walls.

image.png

Best regards

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Message 20 of 22

hi @Stephane.kapetanovic,
please find the link below for the Robot model. Appreciate your help.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1UDFDlwA6S7YHxCbsCeHymlH20amdcQm-?usp=sharing

Thank you.

Regards,
Nickanor

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