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Registered: ‎06-07-2011

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06-07-2011 01:44 PM

Hi dear

why there is a difference between the modal mass and dynamic mass?

And one more problem

the Base shear coefficient﻿ that the robot 2011 is calculating is too big , about 2.5 in dynamic mass  or sometimes 0.55 in modal mass  but the real value is  about 0.35

I have used ubc 97 for applying seismic load.

V=c.w

but v didn't calculate from multiply c.w from the value for c and w that the robot 2011 has calculated.

thank you .

*Expert Elite* | International Moderator
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I just looked file modal.pdf:

Product Support
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Registered: ‎04-26-2010

You can convert loads to masses in 3 ways.

1 Seecting Modal case

2 Selecting Dynamic mass - mass will be added to all dynamic cases

3 Selecting Global mass - converted masses will be applied to all dynamic cases and also can be used in inertia forces (of course if such forces are applied on model)

PLease check your loads to mass conversion as Romanich suggested. If it is not the case it could be good to upload the file for us to analyze

Rafal Gaweda
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06-08-2011 12:13 AM in reply to: Rafal.Gaweda

Hi

I have attached the file

Product Support
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First of all I sugest to use only one self weight as a mass. There are two such masses in your model: one coming from Modal case definition ("Disregard Density" checkbox), another from Loads to Mass Conversion.

Converted masses are not used for base shear scaling unless you convert them using  Global Mass or Dynamic Mass.

After these modifications base shear coeff ~=1.75. I will check the codebook

Rafal Gaweda
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06-08-2011 02:20 AM in reply to: Rafal.Gaweda

Thank you

Valued Contributor
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Registered: ‎06-07-2011

1.7 is too big

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Registered: ‎04-26-2010

As far as I can see from the codebook (formula 30-4) you want either to see Cv coeff or C from V(base shear) = C*W(total weight\mass). These values are not presented in program.

Base shear coeff presented in report is in fact the ratio of base shear calculated with scaling to base shear without scaling.

See attached screen shot

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Rafal Gaweda