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3D model problems

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Message 1 of 7
Anonymous
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3D model problems

Hi,

 

I am working on 3D model of a steel structure. No matter how I model the releases, the program always tells me there are  instabilities type 1 2 or 3.

Would you please show me how can I model my roof truss to work only with normal forces, the X bracers on the roof too and the purlins - to be simply supported (by the nodes of the truss). All that without giving me warning for instabilities.

 

PS: There are some elements missing because the model is in very early stage. That my occur in other instabilities problems. I just need to understand the principle of 3D modeling in RSAP to model elements like those I asked for.

 

Please forgive my poor English.

 

Thankyouinadvanceforyourtimeshared!

 

http://www.4shared.com/rar/eXvDzWvq/Ramka_3D_3D.html?

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Message 2 of 7
Rafal.Gaweda
in reply to: Anonymous

Bottom chord of these trusses are instable either due to excessive releases on bars or missing bracings \ stiffeners.

Example - red bars below added.

 

bracings.jpg



Rafal Gaweda
Message 3 of 7
Anonymous
in reply to: Rafal.Gaweda

Thank you for your example. But is it possible to do it just with appropriate bar releases, because I don't need that many elements between the joints of my bottom chord.

 

To be exact my question, is there some kind of a rule for releases in 3D model like the one in 2D model - node with N number bar elements joining it, there must be N-1 releases.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I hope I explained my problem right.

Thank your for your time!

Message 4 of 7
Rafal.Gaweda
in reply to: Anonymous

It is not that simple.

It depends on released dofs, not on general number of releases in node.

 

instabdofs.jpg



Rafal Gaweda
Message 5 of 7
Rafal.Gaweda
in reply to: Anonymous


Thank you for your example. But is it possible to do it just with appropriate bar releases, 

 

Take a look at LCS of bars and released dofs.

Maybe like that:

 

rz.jpg



Rafal Gaweda
Message 6 of 7
Anonymous
in reply to: Rafal.Gaweda

Thank you for your post, now I will try your suggestion.

 

Message 7 of 7
Anonymous
in reply to: Rafal.Gaweda

Now after I try your proposition, I see everything works just fine, thank you very much! I have one type 3 instability, but despite it, all the results from my test loads are all what I expected. 

 

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