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revit mask region not masking

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Message 1 of 29
bcampbell11
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revit mask region not masking

None of our mask regions "mask" anything since we upgraded to Revit 2013.  They worked fine in 2012, but dont "mask" immediately after saved in 2013.  It may be a setting we have changed, not sure. They do print correctly, but would like them to show correctly in our views.   Anybody have any ideas?  Thanks!

By the way, everything is already set to hidden line.

 

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Message 2 of 29

Could you post some "Before" and "After" (2012 and 2013) images so we could get a better idea what is happening?

 

Thanks,

Joe 

Message 3 of 29

See attached.  FYI, draw order does nothing either.

 

Thanks!

Message 4 of 29
Lance.Coffey
in reply to: bcampbell11

I tried creating a masking region in the Section 1 view of the rac_basic_sample_project.rvt (included with Revit), and it seems to be working as expected.

Are you able to reproduce this behavior in a new project (either created in 2013, or created in 2012 and upgraded)?

Also, since the issue seems to be display related (as it prints correctly) have you tried toggling the Hardware Acceleration setting (turning it off if it is currently on and vice versa), or upgrading the graphics driver?



Lance Coffey

Technical Support Specialist
Message 5 of 29
CoreyDaun
in reply to: bcampbell11

If you draw a simple Detail Line across the Masking Region and then send it behind, does the line get masked as expected? If you View is a Drafting View, then what happens if you copy it into a new 2013 project?

 

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Message 6 of 29
bcampbell11
in reply to: CoreyDaun

In 2013, a detail line is not masked even after sending it behind.  But, once I inserted a "Drafting View" from 2012, that detail's masking works!  I also tried a "Drafting View" detail already in 2013, all masking in "Drafting Views" are immune to this problem, they work fine.

Not sure what this means.  Any thoughts?

Thanks!

Message 7 of 29
Lance.Coffey
in reply to: bcampbell11

I created a new project using the Construction Template, drew a few walls, a detail line, and placed a masking region over a portion of both. The masking region covers the items.

I am attaching a video showing the creation of the masking region. (To view the video, unzip the SWF file and drag into a browser window.)

If you go through similar steps, is the masking region not working?



Lance Coffey

Technical Support Specialist
Message 8 of 29
bcampbell11
in reply to: Lance.Coffey

This works on a new project, but our projects that were started in 2012, then upgraded to 2013, masking flat out wont work. 

Message 9 of 29
bcampbell11
in reply to: bcampbell11

Out of my frustration, I also created a support request, here is the conclusion they came to:

 

"This is a known issue that has been logged with our Development group. The good news is that this issue is scheduled to be addressed in the next update of Revit. Having said that, we don't have a specific timeline when the update may be released, but we believe it should be pretty soon.

 

While this fix is scheduled to be addressed in the next release, we cannot say for sure until the update is actually published. If and when an update is released, I would review the accompanying documentation to see if this fix is included."

 

Hopefully there is a patch soon, as this has become a major issue with opaque regions and masks.   NOTHING looks right in our project, it is a major pain to work on sections with this bug.  Please Fix!!!

 

 

Message 10 of 29
bcampbell11
in reply to: bcampbell11

ok, I think I have discovered culprit, any view with the client's model linked and view settings on, mask doesn't work.  With the linked model view settings off, mask works.  Not sure it this helps anyone find an "easy" solution.  Client's model is version 2013 as well.

Message 11 of 29

This is happening to me on several projects as well. All of them were created from a 2012 template, or updated from  2012 files.

 

I don't have revit models linked in any of my files, but I do have cad files linked.

 

This is a major problem and very difficult to work around.

Message 12 of 29
w121amg
in reply to: DavidKeller2529

Make sure your view is set to Hidden View, not wireframe.

Message 13 of 29

grrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

 

I'm sorry, not a professional response by me but anyone who read the thread could tell we're talking about hundreds of views on multiple files. Not likely we're missing hiden line vs. wireframe here.

Message 14 of 29
lzaras1
in reply to: bcampbell11

for us, it seems to be an issue with the Discipline of the view.

If the view is set to Discipline: Structural, the masking and filled regions misbehave.

If the view is set to Discipline: Coordination, the masking and filled regions work correctly. 

 

But we don't always want our views set to Coordination.

Leanne Zaras, CDT, LEED AP
AutoCAD 2010 Certified Professional
Revit Architecture 2012 Certified Professional

Message 15 of 29
DavidKeller2529
in reply to: lzaras1

Yes! This is the culprit for my views as well. So obvious once you said it - every view that I am having trouble with was a structural discipline view. Changing to coordination seems to fix all of the issues, although I haven't spent enough time determining if it fixes all of them.

 

I'll be spending a significant amount of time today changing views to coordination & making sure no undesired objects become visible in the process.

 

Thank you very much for taking the time to post your work-around solution.


@lzaras1 wrote:

for us, it seems to be an issue with the Discipline of the view.

If the view is set to Discipline: Structural, the masking and filled regions misbehave.

If the view is set to Discipline: Coordination, the masking and filled regions work correctly. 

 

But we don't always want our views set to Coordination.


 

Message 16 of 29

This should be fixed in Revit2013 Update Rlease 1.

It can be downloaded from the Revit Structure Update web page:

 

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/index?siteID=123112&id=2334435&linkID=9280927

 

Regards,

Joe

Message 17 of 29
sarahmanning
in reply to: bcampbell11

I have this problem too.  In Revit 2013 when the view is set to structural and a linked file is visible, anything that is supposed to be opaque becomes transparent and any solid color filled region becomes empty. If I switch to coordination instead of structural or hide the linked file, everything magically starts showing correctly again.  Why is this happening and how do I make it show correctly ALL the time, not just some of the time? 

Message 18 of 29
lzaras1
in reply to: DavidKeller2529

have you downloaded and installed Service Pack 1 that came out late last week?  Seems to have fixed the issue for me and a few others.

See Joe's post two above mine.

Leanne Zaras, CDT, LEED AP
AutoCAD 2010 Certified Professional
Revit Architecture 2012 Certified Professional

Message 19 of 29
5kings
in reply to: lzaras1

Service pack doesn't fix the problem. Poblems arise while using linked models  and The disipline of the view is structural.

Switching to coordination "fixes" the problem. we really need a hotfix on this asap.

 

Regards,

 

Jordi

Message 20 of 29
Lance.Coffey
in reply to: 5kings

There is a separate issue related to Underlays and views with a Structural View Discipline.


Are the linked files you are seeing problems with set to underlay in the Structural view (and does unchecking the Underlay checkbox affect the issue)?



Lance Coffey

Technical Support Specialist

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