Wish List- Revit Systems

[Anonymous]

We are trying to move from ABS to Revit Systems. We have completed a couple of small MEP projects using Revit System. We like the program a lot, but we had to work around a few shortcomings of the program (either the capability is not there, we did not know how), the work around usually included doing the task outside the program and then importing the results. T.hese are things we found would add a lot to this program.
- Ability to import word and excel documents linked and formatted.
- Plumbing content, there is none that we could find included. This could be created using families, but at least some basic fixtures would have been nice.
- Same for pipe accessories (valves, sprinkler heads, etc)
- Ability to size plumbing piping based on Fixture Units (as in ABS).
- Schematic tool with symbols (as in ABS) for risers, isometric and HVAC one lines.
- Ability to generate single phase panels
As I said, we like the program, and having these capabilities would have increased productivity significantly

[nzeeben]

There is a reason you cannot buy Revit Systems without getting a copy of ABS
right now. The areas you have highlighted below illustrate many of the
weaknesses currently. Systems is in much the same place structure was in
inits initial release, I am sure the improvements will be on their way soon
enough.

wrote in message news:5210526@discussion.autodesk.com...
We are trying to move from ABS to Revit Systems. We have completed a couple
of small MEP projects using Revit System. We like the program a lot, but we
had to work around a few shortcomings of the program (either the capability
is not there, we did not know how), the work around usually included doing
the task outside the program and then importing the results. T.hese are
things we found would add a lot to this program.
- Ability to import word and excel documents linked and formatted.
- Plumbing content, there is none that we could find included. This could
be created using families, but at least some basic fixtures would have been
nice.
- Same for pipe accessories (valves, sprinkler heads, etc)
- Ability to size plumbing piping based on Fixture Units (as in ABS).
- Schematic tool with symbols (as in ABS) for risers, isometric and HVAC one
lines.
- Ability to generate single phase panels
As I said, we like the program, and having these capabilities would have
increased productivity significantly

[Martin__Schmid]

You *can* create single phase panels:

240 V Single Phase Panel Family
1. Open 208V MCB Lighting and Appliance Panelboard - Surface.rfa.
2. Select the connector, and select Properties.
3. Make the following settings:
a. Number of Poles = 2
b. Voltage = 240
4. Click OK to close the Element Properties window.
5. Save the file as 240V MCB Lighting and Appliance Panelboard - Surface.rfa

As far as plumbing content... you could 'harvest' this content from the architectural models you are working with, or even from the tutorial files... but this will be mostly for display only, as you indicate, there is no support for sizing based on FU.

As you found, Revit Systems is a modeling tool, not a drafting tool - since schematics are not modeled elements, you will be more productive using an AutoCAD based product for those tasks.

HTH,
Martin Schmid
Autodesk Consulting

[Anonymous]

Hi Terrac -



I'd like to discuss the experiences that you've had with Revit Systems so
far in some detail. It looks like you've used the web interface to make your
post and didn't include an email address in your profile (which I completely
understand).



If you wouldn't mind discussing your product experience so far please send
me an email at jason dot martin at Autodesk dot com.



tia



jason



wrote in message news:5210526@discussion.autodesk.com...
We are trying to move from ABS to Revit Systems. We have completed a couple
of small MEP projects using Revit System. We like the program a lot, but we
had to work around a few shortcomings of the program (either the capability
is not there, we did not know how), the work around usually included doing
the task outside the program and then importing the results. T.hese are
things we found would add a lot to this program.
- Ability to import word and excel documents linked and formatted.
- Plumbing content, there is none that we could find included. This could
be created using families, but at least some basic fixtures would have been
nice.
- Same for pipe accessories (valves, sprinkler heads, etc)
- Ability to size plumbing piping based on Fixture Units (as in ABS).
- Schematic tool with symbols (as in ABS) for risers, isometric and HVAC one
lines.
- Ability to generate single phase panels
As I said, we like the program, and having these capabilities would have
increased productivity significantly

[Anonymous]

Hi Jason,
I sent you an e-mail with my contact information.Let me know if you got it OK

[Anonymous]

I have not been able to get the demand factors to work on Revit. I have set them up as shown in the tutorials but the information that shows up on the panel schedule is not the answer that would be expected. Also i have found that the panel family was created with "other" as the load characteristics. So if you have receptacles (power characteristic) in one panel, as the load goes the feeder panel the load can only be passed as a "other". yes you can change characteristic to power, hvac, other or lighting but. if for instance, you had HVAC, Power and Lighting in a panel that load would go down the feeder as 1 of the 4 load characteristics not as the associated characteristics. Have you figured a way around this?

[Anonymous]

well, coming from a lighting design standpoint, LIGHTING!!

yes it's lovely i can put in oodles of IES files that will reasonably accurately render my design.

i can not however pull any useful photometric analysis off of the project.

either regularly spaced candela grid points or isocandela lines (ideally both) to be generated in a view, at specified elevations would save the need to export to DWG then clean up, then run through AGI, to put back into ACAD, and tidy again would be huge.

that capability alone would probably migrate 1/2 our office to RSy even for projects that are not Revit based due to the time savings for calculations.

if the IES files are there, and the software can render, it CAN generate that information, it just needs to be implemented.

as a side note, please stop dumbing down the program family into Sketch-up. if we're paying for as much parametric modeling power as is in it, don't limit it by forcing us to fiddle with menu trees that are overly simplified and don't cover everything.

[Anonymous]

Hey,
I am kinda new in Revit, but I have tried a lot of applications(AutoCAD Elctrical, ABS) and for me it is nearly the best programe. But it says about illumination calculation that does not work 🙂 I haven't found information that would solve this litle problems(yet I have found that i am not alone;)
so, if it is not roo much trouble, please let me knoe if there is a cure for this.
I am using Revit Systems Plus 2, we got it as resselers of Autodesk (AGA Ltd. LTU)

[Anonymous]

The ability to read IES files is great, however in Europe the majority of photometric data comes in LDT format. It would be really useful if Revit could read these as well.

On another tack, ABS has a function for creating engineering spaces from flat architectural plans. If Revit had a similar feature it would be a lot more useful.

MEP engineers have to build a building model either in ABS, Revit or a calculation package in order to calculate heating and cooling loads, then they have to draw it. In other words we have to do the job twice.

If Building Information Models are to become the norm it will be driven by the engineers, not the architects, they don't need the detail and don't want the complexity, just the pretty pictures.

The fact is most architects in UK are using standard AutoCAD or AutoCAD lite, I have yet to come across a building in ADT never mind Revit.