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Happyunited123
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Mechanical View Display

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02-10-2014 07:40 AM

Hello,

 

When I make my view discipline 'Mechanical' it turns my generic model familes 'grey'. Is there as way to stop this happening? I can use co-ordination but then my pipes dont appear dashed when they cross/go under my generic models.

 

Thanks in advance.

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Alfredo_Medina
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Re: Mechanical View Display

02-10-2014 08:03 AM in reply to: Happyunited123

The "discipline" parameter has its own rules, independent from view templates and visibility settings. Unfortunately, those rules are not editable. Perhaps you should change the category of your generic models to something more specific.

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Re: Mechanical View Display

02-10-2014 08:12 AM in reply to: Alfredo_Medina
Thanks for your quick reply.

I'm actually working on a job I did years ago so was set up when I first started using RMEP. My main gripe with using mechanical equipement was that I couldn't cut a section through the object like I can with a generic model. Is this something I'm doing wrong or is this standard for mechanical equipement?


I mean when I place my section line it doesn't matter where it's placed as the section will always display as an elevation.
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Alfredo_Medina
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Re: Mechanical View Display

02-10-2014 09:02 AM in reply to: Happyunited123

Some categories ignore section lines. Mechanical equipment is one of those. Generic models does respond to section lines, but, ... the "mechanical" discipline shows generic models in half tone. No way to get both things at the same time, unfortunately. :smileysad:

 

I have never understood why the users are not able to determine which categories respond to section lines and which categories ignore them. It's a decision from the Factory for which we have no control.

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Re: Mechanical View Display

02-10-2014 11:37 AM in reply to: Alfredo_Medina
Thanks again for your reply.

I'm not at my desk right now so I can't test. Is there a list of the family categories that respond to a section cut?

Is there a way to maybe have the discipline coordination but still have the pipes/ducts showing as dashed when they cross objects/themselves?
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Alfredo_Medina
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Re: Mechanical View Display

02-10-2014 12:07 PM in reply to: Happyunited123

About your first question: type VG. Look at the Cut / pattern column. Any category that has a grey box in that column ignores section lines.

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Re: Mechanical View Display

02-11-2014 03:33 AM in reply to: Happyunited123

Hello,

 

I had a play this morning and I found a solution. Whilst having my view as mechanical I was able to turn off the halftone on my generic models. I went to MANAGE>ADDITIONAL SETTINGS> HALFTONE/UNDERLAY and in there I can untick the 'apply halftone' and that works a treat.

 

Thanks for your help.

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Alfredo_Medina
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Re: Mechanical View Display

02-12-2014 09:09 AM in reply to: Happyunited123

But that eliminates ALL the halftone, not just the halftone of generic models. Isn't this the same as using the Coordination discipline?

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Re: Mechanical View Display

02-18-2014 12:58 AM in reply to: Happyunited123

Hello,

 

Co-ordination view doesnt show my pipes beneath my structures (gen models) whereas mechanical view does. I appreciate what you're saying but in this project there is only pipes, ducts and generic models and this workaround does the job although it may not be suitable for other projects.

 

Thanks again for your help.

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CADastrophe
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Re: Mechanical View Display

02-18-2014 06:17 AM in reply to: Happyunited123

If you are not satisfied with any of the above suggestions (or making the Discipline Coordination and then making Generic Models transparent), then perhaps you could set the View to the Mechanical Discipline, and then create a separate view (Coordination) that show ONLY your Generic Models and then overlay that Viewport on top of the Mechanical View on the Sheet. It's a pain, but what you are seeking to do it very difficult since Revit sees "Generic Models" as an Architectural Category.

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