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thewrz
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Calculations based on "placed" elevation

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02-24-2012 10:35 AM

I would absolutely die, and go to heaven, if I was able to create tags that actually read the elevation relative to the level that my device is placed at. There's always special situations where you have to place devices at non-standard heights that differ from what we show on the legend or in the specifications.

 

Imagine placing a wall mount light fixture, a data junction box, a fire alarm horn strobe, and then being able to tag it with its exact elevations.

 

THEN. It get's even better. Now imagine if you were able to write formulas in the family that were based on the placed elevation of the device. OMG. It would be Family Nirvana. It would really open up a lot of advanced possibilities if this were a feture.

 

How cool would it be to do your speaker design layouts, based on a 90 degree polar pattern. And making a nested detail group that you can turn on, and then it calculates the radius based on the ceiling height! (the height the device is placed!)

 

Super cool right?

 

Do it Revit Team. Dooowit.

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CADastrophe
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Message 2 of 11 (664 Views)

Re: Calculations based on "placed" elevation

02-24-2012 10:58 AM in reply to: thewrz

Tagging the Elevation Parameter would be the first step and I don't understand why this wasn't a possibility from day one. This has been a headache of an issue with us, and we found the options of dumb text (doesn't update or move with element) and a shared parameter (confusion due to two separate model and text elevations) requiring too much manual upkeep. In this post a while ago, I explained my method of creating an accurate "Elevation Tag" that follows the element and reads the elevation correctly, even if the element changes elevation. This has been working for us pretty well.

 

Now, I would also like to be able to calculate from this parameter in a family, but I refuse to expand on this until step 1 (above) is accomplished.

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thewrz
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Message 3 of 11 (659 Views)

Re: Calculations based on "placed" elevation

02-24-2012 11:11 AM in reply to: CADastrophe

Just read your thread.

 

I too went through those hoops then I didn't bother. It's too much of a hassel and creating a text paramter to indicate height, defeats the purpose of tagging the elevation in the first place.

 

Cross your fiingers for 2013....

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Re: Calculations based on "placed" elevation

02-24-2012 01:39 PM in reply to: thewrz

This guy had a good solution:

http://au.autodesk.com/?nd=class&session_id=9396

 

Skip ahead to about 12 minutes. What they do is actually make all their face-based devices default elevation at 0".


Then they use a parameter to push the Center (Front/Back) plane up and down to actually place the device at the correct height. It's a shared parameter as well, allowing you to tag it.

 

It's a pretty good work around. But still. I want tagging the elevation of the device OOTB. And I want to be able to able to create formulas around the placed elevation.

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mark.silcock
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Message 5 of 11 (612 Views)

Re: Calculations based on "placed" elevation

06-11-2012 02:24 PM in reply to: thewrz

+1 for this also.

 

Displaying single line pipes by elevation with the use of a filter can currently only work on the ground floor due to filters only seeing the global elevation not the per floor elevation.

 

These are basic MEP drafting requirements.

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tkendrick
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Message 6 of 11 (598 Views)

Re: Calculations based on "placed" elevation

07-16-2012 07:36 AM in reply to: thewrz

Same here, when I first learned this was not possible, I was floored.

Tag inserted Elevation of all devices from their associated level, not the ground level.

 

Looks like:          +48"

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Levitskiy.SP
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Message 7 of 11 (573 Views)

Re: Calculations based on "placed" elevation

08-13-2012 07:18 AM in reply to: thewrz

I completely agree. Especially when you have a lot identical devices installed at different heights

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Message 8 of 11 (433 Views)

Re: Calculations based on "placed" elevation

11-05-2012 02:14 PM in reply to: thewrz
thewrz, the proposal you make to put the insertion point at elevation 0 and then add a parameter to shift the component is not a good solution. Bad work-around. I'll post a link to youtube where you can see that we solved this issue. Perhaps I should make this more generic and make this commercially available.
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thewrz
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Re: Calculations based on "placed" elevation

11-05-2012 02:24 PM in reply to: wim

And by commercially available you mean free for all right?

 

But I do agree. It is a ****ty work-around. Currently I've used what CADastrophe suggested, I have a little shelf on a sub-category that I can hide for printing, but turn on when I'm tagging the elevation of the device.

 

 

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Message 10 of 11 (422 Views)

Re: Calculations based on "placed" elevation

11-06-2012 08:00 AM in reply to: thewrz
By commercially available I mean at a moderate price of e.g. 70 €

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