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two different detail levels

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Message 1 of 16
lulu520
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two different detail levels

I have a project that has existing and new walls . . . my dilemma comes when I have a detailed unit plan where I need to dimension to the face of stud - differentiating between the two. I would like to see my new walls in the "fine" mode, but the existing walls the way they look in "course mode. Is there a way to set up my view settings, or the settings of the wall so that the existing walls don't show detail when in "Fine" mode. I can attach a file if this description is too confusing. Thanks in advance.
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Message 2 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: lulu520

I don't think you can do what you are wanting to do. However, you can
either set your detail mode to coarse and manually draw in the extra layers
using details lines, which may not be too bad if you are doing a large scale
plan, or you can edit the structure of the existing walls to only have 1
layer, like how the generic walls are built.

wrote in message news:5397174@discussion.autodesk.com...
I have a project that has existing and new walls . . . my dilemma comes
when I have a detailed unit plan where I need to dimension to the face of
stud - differentiating between the two. I would like to see my new walls in
the "fine" mode, but the existing walls the way they look in "course mode.
Is there a way to set up my view settings, or the settings of the wall so
that the existing walls don't show detail when in "Fine" mode. I can attach
a file if this description is too confusing. Thanks in advance.
L-
Message 3 of 16
rrvm
in reply to: lulu520

Ok, you have to go to your floor plan and pick a wall and go to the properties of this wall, once you have open the properties scroll down to (PHASING)phase created and change to either existing or new construction. Hope i answered your question.
Message 4 of 16
rrvm
in reply to: lulu520

Oh yeh, this changes the detail level automatically
Message 5 of 16
lulu520
in reply to: lulu520

The Phasing is already set up (existing vs. new. vs demo), but it doesn't automatically change the detail level. Is there a way (possibly customize a phase filter in the view settings) to make it do that?
Message 6 of 16
rrvm
in reply to: lulu520

yes, basicaly you will have to change each wall prop,
say all the the exisiting as existing and the New wall as New Construction and as you do this the detail level on the plan changes. Where the existing is Less detail than the New.
Message 7 of 16
lulu520
in reply to: lulu520

hmmm - mine doesn't do that. What is your phase filter set on? Sounds like you are able to do it, so that gives me hope. Now I have to get mine working right.
Message 8 of 16
rrvm
in reply to: lulu520

Under Phasing:
As I said this change either New Const. or Existing on each wall you use.
Phase demolish is NONE
The Detail level of the plan is Fine.
My wall changes automatically but if you look at 3D the colors change as well.
Message 9 of 16
lulu520
in reply to: lulu520

HA HA HA - Yes I know what you have been explaining to do, I'm not trying to frustrate you, but I have already done that. All my existing walls are in the existing phase, and all my new walls are in the new construction phase. They still don't have different detail levels in the plan, which is what I want it to do (and what you are saying yours does). So there is something else in your file set up differently than mine that allows you to view them differently. That is what I need to know. Thanks anyway.
Message 10 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: lulu520

are you existing walls shaded?

wrote in message news:5397466@discussion.autodesk.com...
HA HA HA - Yes I know what you have been explaining to do, I'm not trying to
frustrate you, but I have already done that. All my existing walls are in
the existing phase, and all my new walls are in the new construction phase.
They still don't have different detail levels in the plan, which is what I
want it to do (and what you are saying yours does). So there is something
else in your file set up differently than mine that allows you to view them
differently. That is what I need to know. Thanks anyway.
Message 11 of 16
lulu520
in reply to: lulu520

The Existing walls show as shaded when I am in Coarse mode only - but that is because I set the Existing wall type to have a shade under the Graphics / Course scale fill color, and have the phase filter in the view set to "show complete". Once I change any of those 3 things the shade goes away. But that isn't my problem. I want to still differentiate between existing and new when in Medium or Fine detail level.
Thanks again for any help / advise.
Message 12 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: lulu520

What happens if you change your phase filter to Show All or Show New +
Previous? It should make your existing walls shaded and the layers should
disappear. You need to refer to your Settings -> Phases dialog box. You
want the Existing to be set to Override.

wrote in message news:5397520@discussion.autodesk.com...
The Existing walls show as shaded when I am in Coarse mode only - but that
is because I set the Existing wall type to have a shade under the Graphics /
Course scale fill color, and have the phase filter in the view set to "show
complete". Once I change any of those 3 things the shade goes away. But that
isn't my problem. I want to still differentiate between existing and new
when in Medium or Fine detail level.
Thanks again for any help / advise.
Message 13 of 16
lulu520
in reply to: lulu520

WOW - we almost have it!!! If I have the phase filter set to New + Previous, (which means the Existing phase is set to override) it shows the two different phases. One problem - it is not showing the shade set in the override - it just shows it as white. Any suggestions?? Thanks for fixing the first problem though!! 🙂
Message 14 of 16
Anonymous
in reply to: lulu520

I don't understand your question. What is white? Can you post a screen
shot?

wrote in message news:5397532@discussion.autodesk.com...
WOW - we almost have it!!! If I have the phase filter set to New + Previous,
(which means the Existing phase is set to override) it shows the two
different phases. One problem - it is not showing the shade set in the
override - it just shows it as white. Any suggestions?? Thanks for fixing
the first problem though!! 🙂
Message 15 of 16
lulu520
in reply to: lulu520

I fixed it . . . the default "phase - exist" material in the override location didn't have a color in the Cut pattern part of the material settings, so the existing walls were showing as white instead of shaded. I changed it, and now it looks like what I want. Thanks so much for your help!!
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Message 16 of 16
harrrobe
in reply to: lulu520

If you click the blue dot in the center of the hatch mark it will toggle between wall centerline, coreface int/ext and int/ext, even if they are not visible in the view

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