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chris_the_masshole
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Registered: ‎01-04-2007
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Should I Upgrade to Revit?

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01-04-2007 07:25 AM
My ofiice is small, 4 employees total, including 2 drafters and two owners. We are currently using AutoCAD LT 2006. We did not sdo any 3D design that was not for presentation work, and when we needed presentation renderings I used MAX, which I purchased while still in school. But now, the license has expired and we will need to do more renderings soon.

The issue I am having is whether or not to just buy a single seat of VIZ (price reasons) or try to talk my boss into buying 2 seats of Revit (whioch are on sale for $1995 for LT users). He is on the fence but will ultimately go with my recommendation.

I know how easy Revot makes things, expecially coming from a 'dumb' program like LT. I have tinkered with it in the past and imagaine it would save lots of man power.

The only thing I am concerned about is Revit's rendering capabilities. I will be uinable to have my boss buy 2 seats of Revit & a seat of VIZ (a total of $6000, is just impossible for a 4 person firm right now).

I have attached a rendering that I did in MAX, can you please tell me if I should be able to render one with the same quality using Revit?

Any comments, or program suggestions are appreciated.
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lucasdub
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Registered: ‎07-21-2006
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Re: Should I Upgrade to Revit?

01-04-2007 08:04 AM in reply to: chris_the_masshole
Go n check revitcity.com - gallery section. I think revit is capable of that kinda quality. It might not be photoreal, but would do for most basic needs.
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chris_the_masshole
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Re: Should I Upgrade to Revit?

01-04-2007 09:08 AM in reply to: chris_the_masshole
Thanks. There are actually a few of them with the quality that I am looking for. I think I will recommend picking Revit up.
*Brian
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Re: Should I Upgrade to Revit?

01-04-2007 09:26 AM in reply to: chris_the_masshole
be careful, the galleries do not usually contain 100% revit generated
renderings - sometimes photoshop and or MAX/Vray is used as well.

to be sure, download a free 30 day and run through one of the rendering
tutorials to be sure the output meets your needs.

IMO the current 9.1 rendering presentation quality would have been
acceptable in the 90s but not now. Depends on your market.

nice rough visualization tool though.

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Thanks. There are actually a few of them with the quality that I am looking
for. I think I will recommend picking Revit up.
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chris_the_masshole
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Re: Should I Upgrade to Revit?

01-04-2007 09:34 AM in reply to: chris_the_masshole
I made sure I looked at the ones that said "Modeled & Rendered in Revit". I work for an architectural firm, not a visualization firm, and our rederings are just for progress and deisng intent, not design competitions, but I will take your opinion into consideration, as you are an actual Revit user. Thanks.

I sent away for the free trial yesterday, hopefully it comes tomorrow.
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lucasdub
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Registered: ‎07-21-2006
Message 6 of 22 (184 Views)

Re: Should I Upgrade to Revit?

01-04-2007 09:34 AM in reply to: chris_the_masshole
Correct, some are rendered using other tools. A good photoshop tweak to a final presentation image wouldn't do any harm though.
In general I'd call Revit a good BIM tool with a basic rendering system.
For "nice stuff", you need something better.

L
*Jeff Hanson \(Autodesk\)
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Re: Should I Upgrade to Revit?

01-04-2007 10:30 AM in reply to: chris_the_masshole
You can download a trial version from this link if you don't want to wait
for the disk.

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=5488990


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I made sure I looked at the ones that said "Modeled & Rendered in Revit". I
work for an architectural firm, not a visualization firm, and our rederings
are just for progress and deisng intent, not design competitions, but I will
take your opinion into consideration, as you are an actual Revit user.
Thanks.

I sent away for the free trial yesterday, hopefully it comes tomorrow.
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jmcintyre
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Registered: ‎07-20-2003
Message 8 of 22 (184 Views)

Re: Should I Upgrade to Revit?

01-04-2007 12:50 PM in reply to: chris_the_masshole
Just a suggestion, make sure you have your boss include training in the upgrade budget. You can't use Revit the same way you use acad and without training, the transition time will be much longer.
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Steve_Stafford
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Registered: ‎12-20-2001
Message 9 of 22 (184 Views)

Re: Should I Upgrade to Revit?

01-04-2007 04:01 PM in reply to: chris_the_masshole
I usually just stay away from rendering discussion...but I'm not going to say anything controversial...

I think the Revit internal version of Accurender has a softer light and is less photo real than say VIZ/Max/VIZrender/vray etc. For conceptual and early design studies it is really nice once you have wrung out materials. For high quality photo realism the others are just better at it, being purpose built for it.

Revit's deployment of Accurender is missing UVW mapping tools, a really nice material library (it has so/so materials) and it is just slower than the others or at least can be depending who is "driving".

Based on your description of your firm and the comments about what you saw on Revitcity though, you'll be in good hands with Revit. Just make sure you're prepared for some change 8-). Try to include time and money for some training to get you off on the right foot.

The price for LT users to upgrade as you said is a real bargain too, particularly if it includes the first year's subscription.
*cdv
Message 10 of 22 (184 Views)

Re: Should I Upgrade to Revit?

01-04-2007 05:41 PM in reply to: chris_the_masshole
Keep in mind that if you are considering upgrading to Revit that you will be
working with a complete architectural program that will allow you to go from
concept to construction documents in one model. The ability to also create
perspectives throughout the design process is an added bonus. This will be
very different from working Autocad LT and I agree with the others about
getting some kind of training.

As an architectural firm, regardless of whether your firm decides to
purchase a seat of VIZ in the future, you should upgrade to Revit now. Give
a copy of the attached brochure to your boss and it becomes a no brainer.


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My ofiice is small, 4 employees total, including 2 drafters and two owners.
We are currently using AutoCAD LT 2006. We did not sdo any 3D design that
was not for presentation work, and when we needed presentation renderings I
used MAX, which I purchased while still in school. But now, the license has
expired and we will need to do more renderings soon.

The issue I am having is whether or not to just buy a single seat of VIZ
(price reasons) or try to talk my boss into buying 2 seats of
Revit (whioch are on sale for $1995 for LT users). He is on the fence but
will ultimately go with my recommendation.

I know how easy Revot makes things, expecially coming from a 'dumb' program
like LT. I have tinkered with it in the past and imagaine it would save
lots of man power.

The only thing I am concerned about is Revit's rendering capabilities. I
will be uinable to have my boss buy 2 seats of Revit & a seat of VIZ (a
total of $6000, is just impossible for a 4 person fir
m right now).

I have attached a rendering that I did in MAX, can you please tell me if I
should be able to render one with the same quality using Revit?

Any comments, or program suggestions are appreciated.
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