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RONADAY8524
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Saving down REvit files from 2011

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07-20-2010 02:38 PM

 who'd have thought we'd have problems like this, we now are actually TOO upgraded. After upgrading to Revit 2011, now we're faced with clients who are still on 2010 and cannot see our newer files. I'm startin to feel like we cant win here...

 

Is there any way to save down a Revit 2011 file to a 2010 version?

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Re: Saving down REvit files from 2011

07-20-2010 05:53 PM in reply to: RONADAY8524

No it is not possible to save back to a previous version.  Once a file has been promoted it can't go back.



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Re: Saving down REvit files from 2011

07-21-2010 04:18 AM in reply to: RONADAY8524

Have the same problem, so we have AutoCAD Revit Architecture Suite 2011 subscriptions lying idle just taking up valuable hard disk space, because most of our clients are still on 2010. 

 

I actually think Autodesk would sell more Revit subscriptions if you could save as a lower version.

 

People upgrade for the added functionality of the newer versions but will resist upgrading if it makes backward compatibility a problem.

The number of seats we had for 2009 was six times what we had for 2010, and I had a hard time convincing him to renew subscriptions for 2011.

Already my boss is wondering if it will be worth upgrading to 2012 when ever it comes out. As he can't see what benefit we have derived from having 2011. To him it is beginning to make more economic sense to stay with plain vanilla AutoCAD, since the only way to share drawings with most clients has been to convert them to .DWG with defeats the purpose of investing in BIM software in the first place. The alternative would be switching to ArchiCad which we last used in 2003.

 

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Re: Saving down REvit files from 2011

07-22-2010 05:03 AM in reply to: RONADAY8524

Sorry to hear, this question comes up several times a year every year. Revit has never had the capability of saving backwards. If you are the architect your consultants will have to upgrade or you will either have to export to to dwg or ifc files. If you are a consultant the architect should have mentioned what version they were using or you will have to start asking.

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Re: Saving down REvit files from 2011

07-22-2010 06:25 AM in reply to: cvandevere

cvandevere wrote:

 If you are a consultant the architect should have mentioned what version they were using or you will have to start asking.


I think this probably deserves saying again.  No matter what your role on the project team is the Revit version everyone is going to be working on NEEDS to be talked about and probabvly written down in your contracts.  This just one of the things you need to consider doing a little differently when delivering a BIM project.



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Re: Saving down REvit files from 2011

07-22-2010 07:34 AM in reply to: RONADAY8524

yeah, that make a whole lot of sense.

 

 /sarcasm

 

Here ive fought tooth and nail to get our boss to get us Revit full version, we finally shell out big bucks to get this program probably at the expense of any bonuses we might get in the next year or so, and come to find out that it doesnt have the basic rudimentary functionality of every other autodesk program that we use. Simply saving to a lesser version, a controversial feature indeed.

 

So now when we bid a project, we have to inform the client that we can only work with and provide a certain version of Revit file, that really helps to expand our business and work with our clients. We need to order all our clients to upgrade or we cannot provide the files that they need. Brilliant, autode$k. Thanks a lot 

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Re: Saving down REvit files from 2011

07-22-2010 08:03 AM in reply to: RONADAY8524

If you are on subscription you are allowed to use the current version and several past ones. Typically, I always upgrade because the  product enhancements and new features are worth the productivity improvements. Unless a client is insistent on an older version (which I have not had yet), I will always use the most current. As an architect I want the improvement of the upgrades/updates it allows me to work more efficiently and provide a better product for my client. Revit is not a stagnant program it evolves with each release. Unfortunately, a number principals running firms don't understand that because they don't use the program, so they just think it is an upgraded pencil.

 

Like I previously stated Revit has never been backwards compatible. I guess Autodesk needs to ask all of their resellers to make that perfectly clear to the newbies that are buying the program understand that and/or post a big disclaimer that flashes every time you open the program (now I am being sarcastic) "REVIT IS NOT BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE, MAKE SURE YOUR PROJECT TEAM IS USING THE SAME VERSION".

 

Again sorry that you were unaware but that in no way should keep someone from buying this revolutionary product. Now that you know you can plan your projects accordingly. 

 

Craig D. VanDevere, AIA

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Re: Saving down REvit files from 2011

07-22-2010 08:30 AM in reply to: cvandevere

So are you saying that I can go download, install, and run previous versions, say 2010 & 2009 Revit, on my currently registered computers with my current licenses?

 

If that's the case, then you should have mentioned that earlier instead of taking the "upgrade or else" stance that pretty much stalls dead everyone who doesnt have, or is working with others who dont have the latest and greatest of the program.

 

thanks

 

 

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Re: Saving down REvit files from 2011

07-22-2010 08:40 AM in reply to: RONADAY8524

RONADAY8524 wrote:

So are you saying that I can go download, install, and run previous versions, say 2010 & 2009 Revit, on my currently registered computers with my current licenses?

 

If that's the case, then you should have mentioned that earlier instead of taking the "upgrade or else" stance that pretty much stalls dead everyone who doesnt have, or is working with others who dont have the latest and greatest of the program.

 

thanks

 

 


This is true if you are on subscription.  Here is the wording from the subscription brochure.

 

Use of Previous Versions
As a Subscription Customer you are entitled to install and continue to use Previous Versions of Autodesk
software on a single computer (for a standalone license) or on a network (for network or similar multiuser
licenses) during the term of a subscription contract and any renewal term(s), under the following
conditions:
􀂃 Previous Version use is only available to customers for products which are on a current
Subscription contract.
􀂃 The combined number of Previous Version seats that may be run concurrently of any qualifying
product may not exceed the total number licenses of that product the customer has under
current Subscription contact.
􀂃 Customer may install and use up to three Previous Versions back from the most current version
subject to a Previous Version Eligible Product list which is posted in the Subscription Center
and OTW. Products not appearing on the Eligible Product list do not qualify for Previous
Version use, unless customer owned a valid license of the Previous Version they wish to use
subject conditions of point 4 immediately below.
􀂃 If the customer had a valid, legal license to Previous Version older than three versions back
from the most current release, use of these versions is permitted up to the number of seats
originally owned, but the number of seats used may not exceed the number currently on
Subscription.
􀂃 If the customer has a standalone version, the Previous Version must be installed on the same
computer as the current version and may not be transferred to another computer unless all
licenses of both the Previous Version and the current version are transferred to the new
computer.
􀂃 The current version of the software program that customer has was not labeled or referred to as
a “Crossgrade” when the customer purchased it.

 

 



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Re: Saving down REvit files from 2011

07-22-2010 08:49 AM in reply to: loboarch

Lifesaver there, thank you!

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