Reveals at the END FACE of walls

[Anonymous]

Have tried Host Sweep Reveals to get the "Return" to cut the Reveals in the
Ends of Tiltwall Panels. Does this not work? Obviously it doesn't, but I
wonder what others are doing for this......if possible.

Mike

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Mike Maloney
RAC 2009
ACA 2008
Navisworks 5.5

[cbcarch]

Mike,

Just a couple of thoughts.....

You could build another small wall oriented 90 deg. at the end of the main wall, the same length as the width of the main wall,
and add the reveal to the small portion. Then Join Geometry.

This would possibly result in an additional wall in any wall schedules, which you probably do not want. But it could perhaps
be removed from the schedule?

An in-place void family should cut an in-place wall how ever you need it to--you also could create the wall family and void/reveals
outside the project and then load into the project?

Hope this helps....

cheers...

[Anonymous]

It is possible.



I select the reveal after placement, and on the options bar is a button
to "change sweep returns". in a 3d view, after selection, make sure the
"return" radio button is selected, and the return angle is set to 90
degrees. Click on the end face of the reveal, and it will create a
mitered return. Escape out of the operation. Select the reveal again,
and you will now have 2 grips, one at the original end of the reveal,
and one at the end of the mitered face. Grab the one at the end of the
mitered face and pull it to the rear of the panel. This will pull the
reveal across the end of the panel wall. You can also grab and adjust
the end of the reveal as well, to even adjust the position of the
reveal in the end face. Pull enough and you will pull it entirely away
from the end of the wall!



If the end of your panel is at an angle other than 90 degrees, adjust
the angle value for the return to match.



For further info, see info starting on page 594 of the Revit
Architecture 2009 Users Guide.



Al



Mike Maloney wrote:

Have tried Host Sweep Reveals to get the "Return" to cut the Reveals in the 

Ends of Tiltwall Panels.  Does this not work? Obviously it doesn't, but I 

wonder what others are doing for this......if possible.



Mike



  

[Anonymous]

Thanks Al,

I did try that at first, but couldn't get it 'cut
the end'......but this is also the 1st time trying this...........I'll give it
another shot.

--
Mike Maloney
RAC 2009
ACA 2008
Navisworks 5.5

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It is
possible.

I select the reveal after placement, and on the options bar
is a button to "change sweep returns". in a 3d view, after selection, make
sure the "return" radio button is selected, and the return angle is set to 90
degrees. Click on the end face of the reveal, and it will create a mitered
return. Escape out of the operation. Select the reveal again, and you will now
have 2 grips, one at the original end of the reveal, and one at the end of the
mitered face. Grab the one at the end of the mitered face and pull it to the
rear of the panel. This will pull the reveal across the end of the panel wall.
You can also grab and adjust the end of the reveal as well, to even adjust the
position of the reveal in the end face. Pull enough and you will pull it
entirely away from the end of the wall!

If the end of your panel is at
an angle other than 90 degrees, adjust the angle value for the return to
match.

For further info, see info starting on page 594 of the Revit
Architecture 2009 Users Guide.

Al

Mike Maloney wrote:

Have tried Host Sweep Reveals to get the "Return" to cut the Reveals in the 

Ends of Tiltwall Panels.  Does this not work? Obviously it doesn't, but I 

wonder what others are doing for this......if possible.



Mike



  

[Anonymous]

Thanks cbarch....didn't think about in-place or
your other idea.will give them a shot and let you know.

Thanks,

M

--
Mike Maloney
RAC 2009
ACA 2008
Navisworks 5.5

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Mike,
Just a couple of thoughts..... You could build another small wall oriented 90
deg. at the end of the main wall, the same length as the width of the main
wall, and add the reveal to the small portion. Then Join Geometry. This would
possibly result in an additional wall in any wall schedules, which you
probably do not want. But it could perhaps be removed from the schedule? An
in-place void family should cut an in-place wall how ever you need it to--you
also could create the wall family and void/reveals outside the project and
then load into the project? Hope this helps....
cheers...

[sadlbim02]

Hi Mike,

I understand the frustration which I had the same experience when trying to make reveal at wall corner. I had tried all options available on Revit but unfortunately there is no solution to our aspect, only unless if you create a new family or a model in-place mass which are not flexible nor editable, and you will have to create one for each individual case. Waste of time and man-power....

I ended up finding a stupid method which works perfectly for me. It was easy and solved the problem lol(IMAGE 1):

What I did was creating an extra wall at the end of wall which has the exact thickness as per your reveal depth. First, create a wall and your desired reveal size (IMAGE 2). Then create a new wall type with the same thickness of your reveal size - edit the wall profile and sperate it into two parts; which the bottom of the top wall shall align to the top of the reveal (of the neighboring wall), and the top of the bottom wall shall alight to the bottom of the reveal.

Not sure you understand what I was explaining, you may refer to my screen shots for better reference. Hope this method would work for you.

Kelvin

[archusain.90]

I used a hybrid method inspired by answers from @cbcarch and @sadlbim02. In my case, the reveal was 1.5x1.5cm. I created a wall that is 1.5cm thick, drew it at the end of my main 20cm-thick wall—oriented 90 degrees and touching the 20cm wall. This thin wall is as tall as my main wall. Then, I added the same reveal to this thin wall, and everything looked good.

Of course, as suggested in some of the answers, this will create an additional wall. Also, it will add a 1.5cm thickness to the main wall.

I hope this helps.

[ToanDN]

Edit: I don't know if Modify Return was available in 2008 when the thread was started.  

You could have simply used Modify Return tool to get the reveal to turn the corner.

Screencast: https://knowledge.autodesk.com/community/screencast/1d54d9d6-d504-4e3a-a3b8-e63a86267976

[archusain.90]

You're absolutely right. This works great, I just did not know how to do it until I saw the video you posted! Thanks a lot.