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Existing walls ( NOT demolished) : changing the finish layer only.
Existing walls ( NOT demolished) : changing the finish layer only.
Hi,
I'm working in an office building project, where we have existing building,s ome of existing the walls are going to be demolished and some are staying, siding finishing will be replaced by stucco, how do I demolish only the siding layer and replace it with stucco ?
Thanks a lot , the answer to my problem was number 3. after I selected the part that I want to demolish I had to uncheck phase demolished by orginal check box.
Thank you for the information. I was unaware that parts even existed. I do have an issue, however. I am trying to demo only the cladding, and then in new replace the cladding, as you suggested in A. Yet, in the floor plan (new) the part (cladding) shows up in the new section and I have to draw the new wall over the existing. The option of selecting create parts is grayed out...? Any thoughts? As well, I am replacing the windows and they will be placed over the infill. Do you suggest making a wall opening through the new cladding?
Thank you for the information. I was unaware that parts even existed. I do have an issue, however. I am trying to demo only the cladding, and then in new replace the cladding, as you suggested in A. Yet, in the floor plan (new) the part (cladding) shows up in the new section and I have to draw the new wall over the existing. The option of selecting create parts is grayed out...? Any thoughts? As well, I am replacing the windows and they will be placed over the infill. Do you suggest making a wall opening through the new cladding?
One wall can only create one set of Parts. If you change a portion of the Parts to Demolished, you cannot make it New. As such, I think create the wall layers as separate walls maybe a better option than Parts.
Perfect, and then use the wall opening in the new layer, as the window will only cut through the non-demolished part?
I have kind of done a hybrid. I hear that microstation allows the wall cut depth from a window to be set by the user, so making separate walls for each layer in an assembly (to accomplish a re-cladding project) is not such an issue, as in Revit.
Anyway, I made the part and then basically used graphic overrides to make it look demolished and then in the New view have a new pattern. Not my fav way to do things, but it makes the drawing look right.
Thank you for your help and ideas! this was my first time posting in a forum, and I did not expect a reply from a 5 year old thread.
I just tried that with success. Yet, the problem seen with this approach is that the part (ext. cladding) shows up in elevation as demoed and not in the new elevation, as expected, however in plan the part does not seem to exist, at all.
As well, when adding the new cladding and then joining it to the non-demolished part, the Demo view, then fails to show the demoed part...Back to graphic overrides...
Ok that worked for the floor plan issue. Frustratingly enough you then have to use the linework tool to not show the line through the openings...weird.
Yet it still does not aid in the quirky visibility things arising in the elevation after joining the new wall cladding to the existing non demoed part.
Are you saying that I can draw the new cladding as a part?
No you cannot. You have to draw it as a wall. Because of that, if I were you I would abandon Parts altogether. Draw both the existing-to-be-demo and the new cladding as thin Walls under different Phases.
Perfect. Thank you for your discussion. I felt like this parts thing was going to solve all the workarounds that are needed when only refinishing an interior or when re-cladding...Oh well.
Parts is a powerful tool and it would work perfectly if you only need to demo the layer. But you need to go beyond that and add a new layer in so you hit its limitation.
Well, I can see how it may be useful if you were needing to demo a divided part (bottom of cladding) and replace it with a new cladding (metal demo, stone new)...It may then save you from fully demo and making a stacked wall? i just cannot foresee demoing a part of a wall assembly and not needing to replace it with something...Unless you had a superflous finish layer...?
