Disallow Join. My foot.

[aschamen]

Can someone please explain this?

Notice something?

It’s already disjoined. YET!!! It is in reality JOINED!

Stupid buggy program.

[Anonymous]

Are both walls set to disallow join?

Thomas

[aschamen]

Aaa!HAHAHAHAHAH!!! And THEN… Get THIS!

If it’s not joined, then why do I get this warning when I try to stretch the disjoined wall!

[aschamen]

Wait. you have to disallow join on BOTH walls? What if I have this situation?

[mbellofatto]

Is there anything that is above or below of maybe hidden that will
interfere with the joining?

that could be what is causing the issue...

[aschamen]

Nope. Though I don't understand how anything should interfere with a NOT function.


Logically speaking it should be something like:

WallA = 0

The presence of WallB, WallC, or even WallZ above shouldn't be able to affect that equation.

It's like Revit takes that equation and does this:

WallA*WallZ = 1

all of a sudden, even though WallA is still 0:

0*WallZ = 1

Is THAT equation even possible?? No, it is impossible. But Revit sure is trying to change the laws of mathematics to make it possible.

[Anonymous]

The way I have always took it is that while you can prevent one wall from
joining into others, others can still join into it (unless disallow is set
on both). I may be wrong about this, though.

However, if I have scenerios that the wall join is not behaving correctly, I
will use the edit wall join button sometimes in conjuction with disallow
join to get what I need.

Thomas

[aschamen]

Yeah, I use that button too, but in my opinion it is a poor substitute for good programming.

[Anonymous]

There is the join that walls perform automatically. And there is the Join
Geometry tool.
The allow/disallow join on the right click controls the automatic wall join
feature.
However, it is possible to use the join geometry tool to join together wall
to cleanup linework. To unjoin this condition, you must use the disjoin
tool.

This is needed in many instances to get things like fire walls to display
correctly. I'll disallow join so I can pull a partition back to face of gyp.
and then use the join geometry to clean up the shrink wrapped linework.

wrote in message news:5761621@discussion.autodesk.com...
Can someone please explain this?

Notice something?

It's already disjoined. YET!!! It is in reality JOINED!

Stupid buggy program.

[Anonymous]

...it is really WallA(AutoJoin) = 0 AND WallA(JoinGeometry)=1
The math works.


wrote in message news:5761660@discussion.autodesk.com...
Nope. Though I don't understand how anything should interfere with a NOT
function.


Logically speaking it should be something like:

WallA = 0

The presence of WallB, WallC, or even WallZ above shouldn't be able to
affect that equation.

It's like Revit takes that equation and does this:

WallA*WallZ = 1

all of a sudden, even though WallA is still 0:

0*WallZ = 1

Is THAT equation even possible?? No, it is impossible. But Revit sure is
trying to change the laws of mathematics to make it possible.

[aschamen]

Not if WallA = 0

WallA(AutoJoin) = 0
equals
0(AutoJoin) = 0

WallA(JoinGeometry)=1
equals
0(JoinGeometry)=1 ???? Wrong.

[aschamen]

Wait wait. Before you go correcting me... let me rephrase.

Here are your equations.
WallA(AutoJoin) = 0
WallA(JoinGeometry)=1

First, What's the difference between AutoJoin and JoinGeometry?
Is AutoJoin the same thing as 0? Or is it a true variable?
Is JoinGeometry the same thing as 1? Or is it a true variable?
If they are both true variables, then:
AutoJoin = JoinGeometry

Also, you are forgetting the other walls.

This is what Revit is doing with other walls (in my situation).

WallA(AutoJoin)*WallZ = 1
WallA(JoinGeometry)*WallZ = 1
No matter what.

What happens when AutoJoin or JoinGeometry are zero?

They equations should equal 0. But they don't. They all equal 1.

WallA(0)*WallZ = 1
WallA(0)*WallZ = 1

Both equations end up the same, and they are both wrong.

[Anonymous]

AutoJoin and JoinGeometry are Apples and Oranges
They are two unrelated features and values and the two can't be equated.

wrote in message news:5761770@discussion.autodesk.com...
Not if WallA = 0

WallA(AutoJoin) = 0
equals
0(AutoJoin) = 0

WallA(JoinGeometry)=1
equals
0(JoinGeometry)=1 ???? Wrong.

[aschamen]

Either way:

If
AutoJoin=0
WallA(0)*WallZ = 1

Or if
JoinGeometry=0
WallA(0)*WallZ = 1

Should be 0, but Revit makes the result 1.

...in my situation.

[mkashifafzal]

What programming language Revit uses, from where do i get into the equations entering console in revit????