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Anonymous
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send mail

I'd like to send my kitchen drawing ideas to the contractor via email.
There is an icon on the File menu which looks to me like it is supposed to
do this. Unfortunately I can't really figure out if it does, since the
topic is either not listed or is in a corner of the User's Guide and Help
files that I have not visited so far. I have gotten the error message, Send
Mail failed to send message.

Also, I've tried numerous techniques to save the file in various
formats--bmp, jpg, gif, wmf-- and open them using other programs in order to
use them as Stationery in Outlook Express. This technique works somewhat,
but the email program does not print the image--so it is pretty useless as a
means of communicating ideas to the contractor, who should be able to have
the sheet in his hands. Of course, I could print it out and fax it, but
that only insures that more paper will be consumed as well as introducing
other inconveniences.

Anyway I can't really put the inability of OE to print out these images at
QuickCad's feet, but what about the Send Mail function which isn't working?
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Message 2 of 14
Ric_Norris
in reply to: Anonymous

Hello Brian,

You've lost me....where is the icon in the File menu that you seem to think sends email directly from QuickCAD...???

To my knowledge, there is no such beastie.

Ric Norris.
Message 3 of 14
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Ric,

On my File menu, Send is right below Print.

Dave

Ric_Norris wrote in message
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Message 4 of 14
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Hey, Brian,

This is an something you should clear up because it's a most useful way to
communicate. There's a number of ways, you have to decide the best for you.

If your contractor is at all savvy with computers, you can ask him to download
and install Volo View Express from
http://www3.autodesk.com/adsk/autoindex/0,,126153,00.html. Tell him it's free.
Then, save your drawing as a DWG, zip it up and attach it as a file to your
email. He can open it with Volo and even red line it. He can return it to you
all marked up with his nonsense or questions. Yipes!

Another way is to Copy/Paste it into a Word document (or other word processor
that supports Copy/Paste). It will automatically adjust to the paper size of the
word processor. The problem here is that the texts may be too small to view
comfortably. You might have to adjust your text size on the original drawing to
accomodate this.

In QC, there is (or should be) a command File>Send. This creates an email
message screen, with the file attached in the native QC format. I'm not sure
what that is for you (.CAD?), for AutoSketch it's an SKF file. You can send it
that way, but the recipient would have to have QC on his machine to view it. He
could then just click on the file, QC would boot and the file would load
automatically. I wouldn't hold out too much hope for that, though. The
contractor would actually have to spend money on the program.

[BTW, an email message should not be allowed to automatically open an attachment
(as long as you've told it not to - AND YOU SHOULD!!!!). It should arrive as an
attachment that the recipient is required to deal with, either Open or Save.]

You can also save the SCREEN as a jpeg image, and attach that to an email. Not
so nice because it's WYSIWYG and the texts won't be too readable unless they're
large to begin with.

You could also save it as a Word Metafile (.WMF). Word will open that file ok.
Don't know what your problem is there.

Stay tuned here for other folks to give you further methods.

You'll have to play around with these various techniques to see what suits your
various customers the best. Once you decide, stay with it. It's a useful issue
to work out.

Harvey

Brian wrote:
>
> I'd like to send my kitchen drawing ideas to the contractor via email.
> There is an icon on the File menu which looks to me like it is supposed to
> do this. Unfortunately I can't really figure out if it does, since the
> topic is either not listed or is in a corner of the User's Guide and Help
> files that I have not visited so far. I have gotten the error message, Send
> Mail failed to send message.
>
> Also, I've tried numerous techniques to save the file in various
> formats--bmp, jpg, gif, wmf-- and open them using other programs in order to
> use them as Stationery in Outlook Express. This technique works somewhat,
> but the email program does not print the image--so it is pretty useless as a
> means of communicating ideas to the contractor, who should be able to have
> the sheet in his hands. Of course, I could print it out and fax it, but
> that only insures that more paper will be consumed as well as introducing
> other inconveniences.
>
> Anyway I can't really put the inability of OE to print out these images at
> QuickCad's feet, but what about the Send Mail function which isn't working?
Message 5 of 14
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Harvey,

I'm experiencing the same problem as Brian. When I click on File - Send,
the hard drive "chugs" one or two times, and an error message "Send Mail
failed to send message." appears. That's it.

If I recall, you aren't actually running QuickCAD. So, maybe, it isn't
working in QC?
Anyone running QC7 that's made File - Send work?

Dave

Harvey Smith wrote in message
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>
Message 6 of 14
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Dave,

I use AutoSketch and Netscape, not OE. Netscape brings up the typical "response"
screen, with the prompt on the "To" line. The HD is not accessed. Someone using
QC will have to check this out. Something may be whacky with OE. Are you
surprised?

H
Message 7 of 14
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I'm using QC7 and IE5 so I did a little experimenting. You're going to love
this. The send function works until you save the file. Then you get the
error message. So, to send a drawing that has been saved, you need to
copy/paste it over to drawing1.cad then send it.
Walt

Harvey Smith wrote in message
news:393BBEEF.5B880A5D@westnet.com...
> Dave,
>
> I use AutoSketch and Netscape, not OE. Netscape brings up the typical
"response"
> screen, with the prompt on the "To" line. The HD is not accessed. Someone
using
> QC will have to check this out. Something may be whacky with OE. Are you
> surprised?
>
> H
Message 8 of 14
Ric_Norris
in reply to: Anonymous

Gentlemen,

We have stumbled across another bug.

No wonder I thought there was no such beastie.....the Send command IS NOT in the File menu when running QuickCAD 7 AND AutoSketch 7 with Windows NT4.....it is simply not there.

As I am now at the office and therefore accessing this NG via the WWW option, I cannot post an attachment but I will post a screen shot this evening when I get home....just so you can see for yourself.

I wonder what else is around the corner with this software.

Ric Norris.
Message 9 of 14
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Dave-
The functionality of the Send Mail function from QuickCAD 7 (or previous) depends
upon: 1) Having a current internet connection, 2) Having an Email program (such as
Outlook or Outlook Express, for MS users) installed and configured properly, and 3)
Your registry being fairly clean and non-corrupt (this includes file associations).
They way it should work, is you bring up your file, choose Send option from the File
menu, and it will launch a new Email from your client, whatever that is, (I'm
running IE 5 with Outlook 98 here) and have your file already "attached" to the new
email as a file attachment. I haven't as yet tried this on Netscape yet, but is
supposed to work the same. I was just able to make this work on my machine, will
get back to you when I've tried it on Netscape.....

Rob Bradbury
PSG Product Support, Americas
WW Support & Services, Autodesk
Discussion Q&A: http://www.autodesk.com/discussion

Harvey Smith wrote:

> Dave,
>
> I use AutoSketch and Netscape, not OE. Netscape brings up the typical "response"
> screen, with the prompt on the "To" line. The HD is not accessed. Someone using
> QC will have to check this out. Something may be whacky with OE. Are you
> surprised?
>
> H
Message 10 of 14
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

HOLEY SMOKES!!!

This certainly doesn't happen using ASketch on W98. It's supposed to be quite
similar. What's your operating system, Walter?

Walter Wallace wrote:
>
> I'm using QC7 and IE5 so I did a little experimenting. You're going to love
> this. The send function works until you save the file. Then you get the
> error message. So, to send a drawing that has been saved, you need to
> copy/paste it over to drawing1.cad then send it.
> Walt
>
> Harvey Smith wrote in message
> news:393BBEEF.5B880A5D@westnet.com...
> > Dave,
> >
> > I use AutoSketch and Netscape, not OE. Netscape brings up the typical
> "response"
> > screen, with the prompt on the "To" line. The HD is not accessed. Someone
> using
> > QC will have to check this out. Something may be whacky with OE. Are you
> > surprised?
> >
> > H
Message 11 of 14
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Hey, Rob.

It might be a good idea to try this on NT4 with the same SP that Ric has (SP5? I
think). I have absolutely no problem using ASketch with Netscape. It doesn't
matter if I Save, modify/Save, I always get the email screen with File>Send.

BTW, isn't it a good idea to zip these files before attaching to an email? The
file size can be reduced 80% to 90%.

H

Rob Bradbury wrote:
>
> Dave-
> The functionality of the Send Mail function from QuickCAD 7 (or previous) depends
> upon: 1) Having a current internet connection, 2) Having an Email program (such as
> Outlook or Outlook Express, for MS users) installed and configured properly, and 3)
> Your registry being fairly clean and non-corrupt (this includes file associations).
> They way it should work, is you bring up your file, choose Send option from the File
> menu, and it will launch a new Email from your client, whatever that is, (I'm
> running IE 5 with Outlook 98 here) and have your file already "attached" to the new
> email as a file attachment. I haven't as yet tried this on Netscape yet, but is
> supposed to work the same. I was just able to make this work on my machine, will
> get back to you when I've tried it on Netscape.....
>
> Rob Bradbury
> PSG Product Support, Americas
> WW Support & Services, Autodesk
> Discussion Q&A: http://www.autodesk.com/discussion
>
> Harvey Smith wrote:
>
> > Dave,
> >
> > I use AutoSketch and Netscape, not OE. Netscape brings up the typical "response"
> > screen, with the prompt on the "To" line. The HD is not accessed. Someone using
> > QC will have to check this out. Something may be whacky with OE. Are you
> > surprised?
> >
> > H
Message 12 of 14
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I'm using W98 SE and Outlook Express. I tried the test while online.
Didn't think to see what would happen if I tried it offline. Actually, I
had never even noticed the function existed until I saw this thread and even
now it's just an amusing bug because I zip my files before sending. All my
customers want them as AutoCAD files and they get HUGE!
Walt

Harvey Smith wrote in message
news:393C5449.C639F6DB@westnet.com...
> HOLEY SMOKES!!!
>
> This certainly doesn't happen using ASketch on W98. It's supposed to be
quite
> similar. What's your operating system, Walter?
>
> Walter Wallace wrote:
> >
> > I'm using QC7 and IE5 so I did a little experimenting. You're going to
love
> > this. The send function works until you save the file. Then you get
the
> > error message. So, to send a drawing that has been saved, you need to
> > copy/paste it over to drawing1.cad then send it.
> > Walt
> >
> > Harvey Smith wrote in message
> > news:393BBEEF.5B880A5D@westnet.com...
> > > Dave,
> > >
> > > I use AutoSketch and Netscape, not OE. Netscape brings up the typical
> > "response"
> > > screen, with the prompt on the "To" line. The HD is not accessed.
Someone
> > using
> > > QC will have to check this out. Something may be whacky with OE. Are
you
> > > surprised?
> > >
> > > H
Message 13 of 14
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Agreed. I alway zip drawing files, and have never used the function.
It does work nicely. I checked it out by sending myself a file. I deleted it,
though, because when I opened it I found that I already had it in my Drawings
folder.

Hey, I'm getting old. Don't yell.

H

Walter Wallace wrote:
>
> I'm using W98 SE and Outlook Express. I tried the test while online.
> Didn't think to see what would happen if I tried it offline. Actually, I
> had never even noticed the function existed until I saw this thread and even
> now it's just an amusing bug because I zip my files before sending. All my
> customers want them as AutoCAD files and they get HUGE!
> Walt
>
> Harvey Smith wrote in message
> news:393C5449.C639F6DB@westnet.com...
> > HOLEY SMOKES!!!
> >
> > This certainly doesn't happen using ASketch on W98. It's supposed to be
> quite
> > similar. What's your operating system, Walter?
> >
> > Walter Wallace wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm using QC7 and IE5 so I did a little experimenting. You're going to
> love
> > > this. The send function works until you save the file. Then you get
> the
> > > error message. So, to send a drawing that has been saved, you need to
> > > copy/paste it over to drawing1.cad then send it.
> > > Walt
> > >
> > > Harvey Smith wrote in message
> > > news:393BBEEF.5B880A5D@westnet.com...
> > > > Dave,
> > > >
> > > > I use AutoSketch and Netscape, not OE. Netscape brings up the typical
> > > "response"
> > > > screen, with the prompt on the "To" line. The HD is not accessed.
> Someone
> > > using
> > > > QC will have to check this out. Something may be whacky with OE. Are
> you
> > > > surprised?
> > > >
> > > > H
Message 14 of 14
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I am using NT4 SP6.

I have posted a screen capture in CF "QC File Menu"....just in case a few of
you are thinking "what is he on...??"

As you can see, there is NO Send option. This issue applies to both QC7 &
AS7.

Not that this problem particularly bothers me personally, as it is a feature
I would not use.....however, there is no excuse for it and is another
example of the lack of attention both these products received prior to
release.

AutoDesk....you must realise that all the bugs that occur in NT4 are also
occuring in Windows 2000 and I daresay NT5 will be around for a long time.

There needs to be something done about ALL this.

Ric Norris.

"Harvey Smith" wrote in message
news:393C5544.9E304D1C@westnet.com...
> Hey, Rob.
>
> It might be a good idea to try this on NT4 with the same SP that Ric has
(SP5? I
> think). I have absolutely no problem using ASketch with Netscape. It
doesn't
> matter if I Save, modify/Save, I always get the email screen with
File>Send.
>
> BTW, isn't it a good idea to zip these files before attaching to an email?
The
> file size can be reduced 80% to 90%.
>
> H

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