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*Burling, Michael
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enlarged view

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10-13-1999 08:05 AM
Could someone please help me out with QuikCad (I'm a beginner). I am drawing
at a 1:1 scale but would like to draw an enlarged view of a small portion of
the drawing. What I can't find is a way to accurately dimension it when it's
enlarged. I've tried dragging a corner handle and using the edit- transform-
scale button. I need the dimensions to stay at the original 1:1 values.
Thanks for your help.
Mike
*Support], Keith Sibbert [Autodesk
Message 2 of 9 (55 Views)

Re: enlarged view

10-13-1999 02:31 PM in reply to: *Burling, Michael
Michael,

Prior to scaling that portion of the drawing, right click on the dimension,
select Format Dimension, select the Label tab and change the Label text from <>
to the value the dimension is supposed to have. This way, no matter what scale
you set that part of the drawing to, the dimension text will remain the same.

--
Keith Sibbert
PSG Product Support, Americas
WW Support & Services, Autodesk
Discussion Q&A: http://www.autodesk.com/discussion

Michael Burling wrote:

> Could someone please help me out with QuikCad (I'm a beginner). I am drawing
> at a 1:1 scale but would like to draw an enlarged view of a small portion of
> the drawing. What I can't find is a way to accurately dimension it when it's
> enlarged. I've tried dragging a corner handle and using the edit- transform-
> scale button. I need the dimensions to stay at the original 1:1 values.
> Thanks for your help.
> Mike
*Smith, Harvey
Message 3 of 9 (55 Views)

Re: enlarged view

10-13-1999 04:17 PM in reply to: *Burling, Michael
Hi, Mike.

This ain't no beginner's question. I suppose you could do what Keith suggest,
although I think it has some drawbacks. The neat way to do this is with the
Detail View. Take a look at the Help screens in the program to get some idea.

What this allows you to do is to dimension an object in your drawing, isolate
the object AND it's dimensions and save it as a Detail View. Then you can recall
it at any time and enlarge it as much as you want - and it will hold the
dimensions originally present. The is no upper limit to the number of detailed
views you can have in a drawing. Here's what you can try.

1. Draw a series of three squares with 1", 2", and 3" sides. Use Grid Snap if
you want, as long as they are exact. Now dimension each of them.
2. Draw a Marquee around the smallest. Do this by holding the [Ctrl] key and
drag selecting the object. Make sure to include the dimensions.
3. Now choose View>Save and enter "square" in the dialog box. Click OK.
4. Go to an empty part of the page and choose Draw>DetailView, make sure the
edit bar says "Square" and click anywhere. Drag the rectangle out to any size
you want. Note that the dimensions remain the same, no matter WHAT the size.

Good question.

Harvey

Michael Burling wrote:
>
> Could someone please help me out with QuikCad (I'm a beginner). I am drawing
> at a 1:1 scale but would like to draw an enlarged view of a small portion of
> the drawing. What I can't find is a way to accurately dimension it when it's
> enlarged. I've tried dragging a corner handle and using the edit- transform-
> scale button. I need the dimensions to stay at the original 1:1 values.
> Thanks for your help.
> Mike

--
http://www.westnet.com/~harvey/
*Burling, Michael
Message 4 of 9 (55 Views)

Re: enlarged view

10-14-1999 09:05 AM in reply to: *Burling, Michael
"Detail View" doesn't show up on the Draw dropdown box, or in the helps or
the book. It HAS taken me SOME time to learn this program. I'm using version
4.12. However, using Keiths suggestion will accomplish what I need.
Thanks so much.

Mike
*Smith, Harvey
Message 5 of 9 (55 Views)

Re:

10-14-1999 11:30 AM in reply to: *Burling, Michael
Oops, sorry Mike.

I use AutoSketch V6 and I guess Detail View isn't part of QC. Well, it's a nice
feature. If you do a lot of this, you might think about it in the future.

H

Michael Burling wrote:
>
> "Detail View" doesn't show up on the Draw dropdown box, or in the helps or
> the book. It HAS taken me SOME time to learn this program. I'm using version
> 4.12. However, using Keiths suggestion will accomplish what I need.
> Thanks so much.
>
> Mike

--
http://www.westnet.com/~harvey/
*Jackson, Paul
Message 6 of 9 (55 Views)

Re:

10-14-1999 06:13 PM in reply to: *Burling, Michael
Hello Michael

I do similar to what Keith stipulates, however I add dimensions last, so
that their attributes are not enlarged in the scaling process.

I get my detail drawn in normal scale, say 1:100 and get it all correct but
without text and dimensions. Then, enlarge using the Transform>Scale tool,
say x5 to be 1:20 and then add the text and dimensions. The dimensions will
be incorrect, and then I do as Keith stated and manually override the
dimension text.

I also save the detail as a symbol for next time.

Regards
Paul Jackson

Michael Burling wrote in message <7u4v61$2ag2@adesknews2.autodesk.com>...
>
>"Detail View" doesn't show up on the Draw dropdown box, or in the helps or
>the book. It HAS taken me SOME time to learn this program. I'm using
version
>4.12. However, using Keiths suggestion will accomplish what I need.
>Thanks so much.
>
>Mike
>
>
>
*Smith, Harvey
Message 7 of 9 (55 Views)

Re:

10-14-1999 06:27 PM in reply to: *Burling, Michael
Paul:

Would you use this method in AS? Why not Detail View?

H

Paul Jackson wrote:
>
> Hello Michael
>
> I do similar to what Keith stipulates, however I add dimensions last, so
> that their attributes are not enlarged in the scaling process.
>
> I get my detail drawn in normal scale, say 1:100 and get it all correct but
> without text and dimensions. Then, enlarge using the Transform>Scale tool,
> say x5 to be 1:20 and then add the text and dimensions. The dimensions will
> be incorrect, and then I do as Keith stated and manually override the
> dimension text.
>
> I also save the detail as a symbol for next time.
>
> Regards
> Paul Jackson
>
> Michael Burling wrote in message <7u4v61$2ag2@adesknews2.autodesk.com>...
> >
> >"Detail View" doesn't show up on the Draw dropdown box, or in the helps or
> >the book. It HAS taken me SOME time to learn this program. I'm using
> version
> >4.12. However, using Keiths suggestion will accomplish what I need.
> >Thanks so much.
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >
> >

--
http://www.westnet.com/~harvey/
*GB
Message 8 of 9 (55 Views)

Re:

10-14-1999 10:57 PM in reply to: *Burling, Michael
Unless Paul has a need that can only be fixed by this method, I would say
that being a creature of habit, he is doing things the same way as he used
to do in Drafix.

I agree Harvey, the detail view is one of the best 'added features' of AS,
along with the spel checker....:-)
GB

> Paul:
>
> Would you use this method in AS? Why not Detail View?
>
> H
>
> Paul Jackson wrote:
> >
> > Hello Michael
> >
> > I do similar to what Keith stipulates, however I add dimensions last,
so
> > that their attributes are not enlarged in the scaling process.
> >
> > I get my detail drawn in normal scale, say 1:100 and get it all correct
but
> > without text and dimensions. Then, enlarge using the Transform>Scale
tool,
> > say x5 to be 1:20 and then add the text and dimensions. The dimensions
will
> > be incorrect, and then I do as Keith stated and manually override the
> > dimension text.
> >
> > I also save the detail as a symbol for next time.
> >
> > Regards
> > Paul Jackson
*Computing, Resolve
Message 9 of 9 (55 Views)

Re:

10-16-1999 10:51 AM in reply to: *Burling, Michael
Harvey Smith wrote in message <380682E9.D5AF2CF4@westnet.com>...
>Paul:
>
>Would you use this method in AS? Why not Detail View?
>

Sometimes I do not want all the other information that comes up in detail
view plus there are layer issues with detail view, as all layers need to be
on, that constitute the view.

Paul
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