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    *Counsell, Keith

    Architectural elevations?

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    09-22-1999 05:24 PM
    I've been asked to provide a few choices of software for doing what is
    essentially "CAD-lite" -- some basic floor plans with dimensioning, door
    symbols, etc. The only hangup is that the user would like to be able to
    create elevations of drawn buildings. Can any of you let me know if
    QuickCAD, AutoCAD LT, or AutoSketch handles this? The online docs
    aren't clear, and while I assume that at least one will do what we need
    I don't want to jump in rashly.

    Many thanks for your time and help!
    Keith
    keithc@its.caltech.edu
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    *Jackson, Paul

    Re: Architectural elevations?

    09-22-1999 06:50 PM in reply to: *Counsell, Keith
    Hello Keith

    Both QuickCAD and AutoSketch are very capable of architectural drawing.
    Here in Australia AutoSketch is used extensively by our building community
    for everything from small units up to multi storey buildings.

    I also have a manual that goes through the process of drawing houses. For
    info look at http://www.resolv.com.au

    Regards
    Paul Jackson
    Resolve Computing

    Keith Counsell wrote in message <37E97344.1359A33D@its.caltech.edu>...
    >I've been asked to provide a few choices of software for doing what is
    >essentially "CAD-lite" -- some basic floor plans with dimensioning, door
    >symbols, etc. The only hangup is that the user would like to be able to
    >create elevations of drawn buildings. Can any of you let me know if
    >QuickCAD, AutoCAD LT, or AutoSketch handles this? The online docs
    >aren't clear, and while I assume that at least one will do what we need
    >I don't want to jump in rashly.
    >
    >Many thanks for your time and help!
    >Keith
    >keithc@its.caltech.edu
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    *Smith, Harvey

    Re: Architectural elevations?

    09-22-1999 06:56 PM in reply to: *Counsell, Keith
    Keith.

    Any of the packages you're considering will do exactly what you want. I'm an
    AutoSketch user and, although I don't use it for house plans, I've seen many
    folks' drawings using this package. They're quite professional. It's easy to
    use, and the newsgroup seems very active - much more so than this one, for some
    reason. Check out the posts there.
    http://www.autodesk.com/support/discsgrp/design.htm.

    In addition, you can get a workbook/manual specific for AutoSketch (and it will
    do for QuickCAD, too) from Paul Jackson. The most useful addition you can have
    for these programs. Try
    http://www.resolv.com.au/building_industry/order_form.shtml to pick it up if you
    decide to proceed.

    My suggestion would be to stay away from the AutoCADs for now. I've been told
    they take a bit more struggle to get up to speed than the others. Len Rafuse may
    spot this post and respond. He uses them all for different applications. Check
    back.

    Harvey

    Keith Counsell wrote:
    >
    > I've been asked to provide a few choices of software for doing what is
    > essentially "CAD-lite" -- some basic floor plans with dimensioning, door
    > symbols, etc. The only hangup is that the user would like to be able to
    > create elevations of drawn buildings. Can any of you let me know if
    > QuickCAD, AutoCAD LT, or AutoSketch handles this? The online docs
    > aren't clear, and while I assume that at least one will do what we need
    > I don't want to jump in rashly.
    >
    > Many thanks for your time and help!
    > Keith
    > keithc@its.caltech.edu

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    http://www.westnet.com/~harvey/
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    *Smith, Harvey

    Re:

    09-22-1999 06:58 PM in reply to: *Counsell, Keith
    Beat me. Story of my life.

    H

    Paul Jackson wrote:
    >
    > Hello Keith
    >
    > Both QuickCAD and AutoSketch are very capable of architectural drawing.
    > Here in Australia AutoSketch is used extensively by our building community
    > for everything from small units up to multi storey buildings.
    >
    > I also have a manual that goes through the process of drawing houses. For
    > info look at http://www.resolv.com.au
    >
    > Regards
    > Paul Jackson
    > Resolve Computing
    >
    > Keith Counsell wrote in message <37E97344.1359A33D@its.caltech.edu>...
    > >I've been asked to provide a few choices of software for doing what is
    > >essentially "CAD-lite" -- some basic floor plans with dimensioning, door
    > >symbols, etc. The only hangup is that the user would like to be able to
    > >create elevations of drawn buildings. Can any of you let me know if
    > >QuickCAD, AutoCAD LT, or AutoSketch handles this? The online docs
    > >aren't clear, and while I assume that at least one will do what we need
    > >I don't want to jump in rashly.
    > >
    > >Many thanks for your time and help!
    > >Keith
    > >keithc@its.caltech.edu

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    *Norris, Ric

    Re: Architectural elevations?

    09-23-1999 04:51 AM in reply to: *Counsell, Keith
    Hi Keith,

    My suggestion is AutoCAD LT...the extra outlay certainly outways the loss of
    productivity trying to achieve simple commands in QuickCAD. Based on
    earning, say, $100.00 per hour...you will be ahead in no more than 2 days.

    I have no experience with AutoSketch & therefore cannot comment.

    Cheers,

    Ric Norris.
    Keith Counsell wrote in message
    news:37E97344.1359A33D@its.caltech.edu...
    > I've been asked to provide a few choices of software for doing what is
    > essentially "CAD-lite" -- some basic floor plans with dimensioning, door
    > symbols, etc. The only hangup is that the user would like to be able to
    > create elevations of drawn buildings. Can any of you let me know if
    > QuickCAD, AutoCAD LT, or AutoSketch handles this? The online docs
    > aren't clear, and while I assume that at least one will do what we need
    > I don't want to jump in rashly.
    >
    > Many thanks for your time and help!
    > Keith
    > keithc@its.caltech.edu
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    *Rafuse, L.

    Re:

    09-23-1999 06:04 AM in reply to: *Counsell, Keith
    Ric Norris wrote:

    > Hi Keith,
    >
    > My suggestion is AutoCAD LT...the extra outlay certainly outways the loss of
    > productivity trying to achieve simple commands in QuickCAD. Based on
    > earning, say, $100.00 per hour...you will be ahead in no more than 2 days.
    >
    > I have no experience with AutoSketch & therefore cannot comment.
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Ric Norris.

    As someone who uses both AutoSketch and AutoCAD LT to do 2D building plans, I
    would have to disagree.

    Things that are easy to do in AutoSketch are difficult and sometimes apparently
    impossible in AutoCAD LT.

    I have also quickly trained several people how to make floor plans and layouts
    on AutoSketch. One of these people wanted to use AutoCAD also. Before she
    could even do simple drawings, she had to take an 8 week course.

    Of course if you are coming from an AutoCAD environment, AutoCAD may seem easier
    and have better DWG compatibility. If your more of a windows person, AutoSketch
    will be easier and DWG transfers are very good.

    --
    Len Rafuse
    Vision Engineering
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    *Smith, Harvey

    Re: Architectural elevations?

    09-23-1999 07:30 AM in reply to: *Counsell, Keith
    Keith:

    An additional note. Len noted that AutoSketch was easy to learn. I agree. I
    struggled with it for a while alone at the beginning, trying to figure out what
    the simple tutorial was all about. It was taking me hours to do simple things
    and I wondered how anyone could use it effectively. And I'm a VERY smart person,
    but this computer environment was completely foreign to me. Then I stumbled on
    the newsgroup, read it for a while, wondering what all the words meant. I
    screwed up my courage and posted a totally stupid question. Voila! I got an
    immediate answer, began to see what these people were talking about, and it
    became clear to me what the programmers were getting at when they designed it. I
    figure it took about two or three days to get to the top of the hill. The
    downhill was very fast, all the while slapping myself on the forehead for not
    seeing it sooner.

    There are some sections of the program that I'm still fiddling with, trying to
    get the succession of key strokes just right, but it's become fun to puzzle it
    out now. I would highly recommend the AutoSketch program for a new user,
    especially with the newsgroup that goes with it.

    Harvey

    Keith Counsell wrote:
    >
    > I've been asked to provide a few choices of software for doing what is
    > essentially "CAD-lite" -- some basic floor plans with dimensioning, door
    > symbols, etc. The only hangup is that the user would like to be able to
    > create elevations of drawn buildings. Can any of you let me know if
    > QuickCAD, AutoCAD LT, or AutoSketch handles this? The online docs
    > aren't clear, and while I assume that at least one will do what we need
    > I don't want to jump in rashly.
    >
    > Many thanks for your time and help!
    > Keith
    > keithc@its.caltech.edu

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    http://www.westnet.com/~harvey/
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    *Alm, Håkon

    SV: Architectural elevations?

    09-23-1999 01:00 PM in reply to: *Counsell, Keith
    As a user of Drafix 4.11, AutoSketch 6.0 and AutoCAD Lt 2000 I will agree
    with Len Rafuse.

    Autosketch (and of course Drafix) is far more productive than AutoCAD LT (or
    even AutoCAD)

    I have used Drafix for complete architectural drawings for several project
    with more than 5.000 m2 (53.819 sq ft)

    Håkon ALm
    Architect,
    Sivilarkitekt Alm AS, Norway

    L. Rafuse skrev i
    meldingsnyheter:37EA2566.6D1FA171@wn.net...
    >
    > As someone who uses both AutoSketch and AutoCAD LT to do 2D building
    plans, I
    > would have to disagree.
    >
    > Things that are easy to do in AutoSketch are difficult and sometimes
    apparently
    > impossible in AutoCAD LT.
    >
    > I have also quickly trained several people how to make floor plans and
    layouts
    > on AutoSketch. One of these people wanted to use AutoCAD also. Before
    she
    > could even do simple drawings, she had to take an 8 week course.
    >
    > Of course if you are coming from an AutoCAD environment, AutoCAD may seem
    easier
    > and have better DWG compatibility. If your more of a windows person,
    AutoSketch
    > will be easier and DWG transfers are very good.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Len Rafuse
    > Vision Engineering
    >
    >
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    *Smith, Harvey

    Re:

    09-23-1999 02:19 PM in reply to: *Counsell, Keith
    Len:

    I think it was Paul Jackson who said he taught a 12-year-old to use AutoSketch
    in 15 minutes. It makes me weep.

    H

    "L. Rafuse" wrote:
    >
    > Ric Norris wrote:
    >
    > > Hi Keith,
    > >
    > > My suggestion is AutoCAD LT...the extra outlay certainly outways the loss of
    > > productivity trying to achieve simple commands in QuickCAD. Based on
    > > earning, say, $100.00 per hour...you will be ahead in no more than 2 days.
    > >
    > > I have no experience with AutoSketch & therefore cannot comment.
    > >
    > > Cheers,
    > >
    > > Ric Norris.
    >
    > As someone who uses both AutoSketch and AutoCAD LT to do 2D building plans, I
    > would have to disagree.
    >
    > Things that are easy to do in AutoSketch are difficult and sometimes apparently
    > impossible in AutoCAD LT.
    >
    > I have also quickly trained several people how to make floor plans and layouts
    > on AutoSketch. One of these people wanted to use AutoCAD also. Before she
    > could even do simple drawings, she had to take an 8 week course.
    >
    > Of course if you are coming from an AutoCAD environment, AutoCAD may seem easier
    > and have better DWG compatibility. If your more of a windows person, AutoSketch
    > will be easier and DWG transfers are very good.
    >
    > --
    > Len Rafuse
    > Vision Engineering

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    *Counsell, Keith

    Re: Architectural elevations?

    09-24-1999 11:24 AM in reply to: *Counsell, Keith
    Thanks to everyone for your suggestions! The response was very
    helpful. For those who are interested, I'm going to suggest AutoSketch
    based on all of the feedback. It seems to be the most appropriate
    choice for the level of expertise and functionality desired.

    Thanks again,
    Keith
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