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*Berning, Tom
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Xerox 8830 - Plots not rotating properly

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02-13-2002 12:47 AM
We have a Xerox 8830 and are running Autocad 2000i. We just upgraded to
firmware version 6 and I wish I never decided to do this. Now when I try to
plot any drawing with a raster image, wipeout or textmask in it, the plot
does one of 3 things and none of them are acceptable. For our 24x36 drawings
we use a paper size of 36x64 and the plots have always come out with the
correct rotation and size. Now when I send drawings that have images,
textmask or wipeouts the 24x36 comes out 24 wide on the 36" roll and it cuts
off the last 1.5" of the drawing. I tried using the 36x24 paper size and the
plot comes out the correct rotation, but our 1/2" margins don't come out
correct. The leading edge comes out 3/4" and you can see the trim line and
the trailing edge comes out 1/4". The 30x42 drawings plot on the 36"roll
instead of the 30" roll and the plot is shifted to the right side.

We have a Xerox 8830 in another office and they have the same problem after
they upgraded to version 6 firmware. This problem is either caused by
something in the HDI driver or in the printer itself. I seem to think it is
something in the printer because we were not having this much of a problem
when we had version 4 firmware. With version 4 firmware we would get one
drawing every once in a while that would not plot correctly, but all we
would have to do is trim the plot.

I have downloaded the latest HDI driver from Xerox's website and that didn't
help. I even tried plotting from Autocad 2002 and that didn't help either. I
tried creating a plot based on a HP 755 driver and that didn't work either.
Since the 755 driver didn't work it must be something with the firmware that
is causing the problem.

If anyone has found a solution or a temporary fix, please let me know.

Thanks
Tom Berning
Woolpert LLP
*Tomson, Rob
Message 2 of 5 (74 Views)

Re: Xerox 8830 - Plots not rotating properly

02-13-2002 03:59 AM in reply to: *Berning, Tom
do you get dots in your wipeouts and raster images?

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W2k, A2K2, VB6
"Tom Berning" wrote in message
news:FC9BDD8209B571A6B56A7902A1223594@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> We have a Xerox 8830 and are running Autocad 2000i. We just upgraded to
> firmware version 6 and I wish I never decided to do this. Now when I try
to
> plot any drawing with a raster image, wipeout or textmask in it, the plot
> does one of 3 things and none of them are acceptable. For our 24x36
drawings
> we use a paper size of 36x64 and the plots have always come out with the
> correct rotation and size. Now when I send drawings that have images,
> textmask or wipeouts the 24x36 comes out 24 wide on the 36" roll and it
cuts
> off the last 1.5" of the drawing. I tried using the 36x24 paper size and
the
> plot comes out the correct rotation, but our 1/2" margins don't come out
> correct. The leading edge comes out 3/4" and you can see the trim line and
> the trailing edge comes out 1/4". The 30x42 drawings plot on the 36"roll
> instead of the 30" roll and the plot is shifted to the right side.
>
> We have a Xerox 8830 in another office and they have the same problem
after
> they upgraded to version 6 firmware. This problem is either caused by
> something in the HDI driver or in the printer itself. I seem to think it
is
> something in the printer because we were not having this much of a problem
> when we had version 4 firmware. With version 4 firmware we would get one
> drawing every once in a while that would not plot correctly, but all we
> would have to do is trim the plot.
>
> I have downloaded the latest HDI driver from Xerox's website and that
didn't
> help. I even tried plotting from Autocad 2002 and that didn't help either.
I
> tried creating a plot based on a HP 755 driver and that didn't work
either.
> Since the 755 driver didn't work it must be something with the firmware
that
> is causing the problem.
>
> If anyone has found a solution or a temporary fix, please let me know.
>
> Thanks
> Tom Berning
> Woolpert LLP
>
>
*Nienberg, Mark
Message 3 of 5 (74 Views)

Re: Xerox 8830 - Plots not rotating properly

02-13-2002 06:59 AM in reply to: *Berning, Tom
We are still using the version 4 firmware, with the HDI driver that came
with AutoCad2002, but a few things we have found are:

The rotation and cutting doesn't work properly with the windows system
driver. It does work correctly with the HDI driver.

We have to make custom paper sizes with no margins to get it to work
correctly. For example, we make a custom paper size for 24x36 sheets that
has a printable area of 24"x36". Then we just be careful not to draw
anything too close to the edge. If we use a paper size with a smaller
printable area, we get results like you described.

Why do you use 36x64 paper to plot 24x36? Do you mean physical paper in the
manual feed tray, or do you mean paper setting in the plot setup?

How are you sending the plots to your printer? Do you connect to it
directly, or do you use the Document Submission Tool to send plot files to
the plotter.

Mark

"Tom Berning" wrote in message
news:FC9BDD8209B571A6B56A7902A1223594@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> We have a Xerox 8830 and are running Autocad 2000i. We just upgraded to
> firmware version 6 and I wish I never decided to do this. Now when I try
to
> plot any drawing with a raster image, wipeout or textmask in it, the plot
> does one of 3 things and none of them are acceptable. For our 24x36
drawings
> we use a paper size of 36x64 and the plots have always come out with the
> correct rotation and size. Now when I send drawings that have images,
> textmask or wipeouts the 24x36 comes out 24 wide on the 36" roll and it
cuts
> off the last 1.5" of the drawing. I tried using the 36x24 paper size and
the
> plot comes out the correct rotation, but our 1/2" margins don't come out
> correct. The leading edge comes out 3/4" and you can see the trim line and
> the trailing edge comes out 1/4". The 30x42 drawings plot on the 36"roll
> instead of the 30" roll and the plot is shifted to the right side.
>
> We have a Xerox 8830 in another office and they have the same problem
after
> they upgraded to version 6 firmware. This problem is either caused by
> something in the HDI driver or in the printer itself. I seem to think it
is
> something in the printer because we were not having this much of a problem
> when we had version 4 firmware. With version 4 firmware we would get one
> drawing every once in a while that would not plot correctly, but all we
> would have to do is trim the plot.
>
> I have downloaded the latest HDI driver from Xerox's website and that
didn't
> help. I even tried plotting from Autocad 2002 and that didn't help either.
I
> tried creating a plot based on a HP 755 driver and that didn't work
either.
> Since the 755 driver didn't work it must be something with the firmware
that
> is causing the problem.
>
> If anyone has found a solution or a temporary fix, please let me know.
>
> Thanks
> Tom Berning
> Woolpert LLP
>
>
*Berning, Tom
Message 4 of 5 (74 Views)

Re:

02-13-2002 09:49 PM in reply to: *Berning, Tom
We don't get any dots.

"Rob Tomson" wrote in message
news:81D9FEE3ECD12EA3246E4AE6AF680B38@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> do you get dots in your wipeouts and raster images?
>
> --
> 'There is no knowledge that is not power.'
> W2k, A2K2, VB6
> "Tom Berning" wrote in message
> news:FC9BDD8209B571A6B56A7902A1223594@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > We have a Xerox 8830 and are running Autocad 2000i. We just upgraded to
> > firmware version 6 and I wish I never decided to do this. Now when I try
> to
> > plot any drawing with a raster image, wipeout or textmask in it, the
plot
> > does one of 3 things and none of them are acceptable. For our 24x36
> drawings
> > we use a paper size of 36x64 and the plots have always come out with the
> > correct rotation and size. Now when I send drawings that have images,
> > textmask or wipeouts the 24x36 comes out 24 wide on the 36" roll and it
> cuts
> > off the last 1.5" of the drawing. I tried using the 36x24 paper size and
> the
> > plot comes out the correct rotation, but our 1/2" margins don't come out
> > correct. The leading edge comes out 3/4" and you can see the trim line
and
> > the trailing edge comes out 1/4". The 30x42 drawings plot on the 36"roll
> > instead of the 30" roll and the plot is shifted to the right side.
> >
> > We have a Xerox 8830 in another office and they have the same problem
> after
> > they upgraded to version 6 firmware. This problem is either caused by
> > something in the HDI driver or in the printer itself. I seem to think it
> is
> > something in the printer because we were not having this much of a
problem
> > when we had version 4 firmware. With version 4 firmware we would get one
> > drawing every once in a while that would not plot correctly, but all we
> > would have to do is trim the plot.
> >
> > I have downloaded the latest HDI driver from Xerox's website and that
> didn't
> > help. I even tried plotting from Autocad 2002 and that didn't help
either.
> I
> > tried creating a plot based on a HP 755 driver and that didn't work
> either.
> > Since the 755 driver didn't work it must be something with the firmware
> that
> > is causing the problem.
> >
> > If anyone has found a solution or a temporary fix, please let me know.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Tom Berning
> > Woolpert LLP
> >
> >
>
>
*Berning, Tom
Message 5 of 5 (74 Views)

Re:

02-13-2002 09:56 PM in reply to: *Berning, Tom
The 36x64 paper size a custom paper size set in Autocad. The reason I use
this is that it doesn't matter what drawing size you want, as long as it
fits on a 36x64 paper the plotter will plot out the printable area which is
defined by trim lines in our titleblocks. This way you don't have to select
a specific paper size that will fit the drawing you want to plot and if you
are just windowing an area of the drawing it will plot fine with this paper
size selected. When I setup the PC3 file I modified all the other standard
paper sizes and removed the margins that were assigned. That way if someone
wants to use one of those paper sizes it will plot correct.

We use the Document Submit tool to send plots to the plotter, but one of our
other offices that has the same plotter sends alot of plots directly to the
plotter and they have the same problem.

If I were you, I wouldn't upgrade firmware until you are sure this problem
is fixed. I am still waiting for a solution and if it doesn't happen soon I
am going to see if we can switch back to firmware version 4.

"Mark Nienberg" wrote in message
news:48EDA6A6A179CDE79543DCD19A31BAC9@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> We are still using the version 4 firmware, with the HDI driver that came
> with AutoCad2002, but a few things we have found are:
>
> The rotation and cutting doesn't work properly with the windows system
> driver. It does work correctly with the HDI driver.
>
> We have to make custom paper sizes with no margins to get it to work
> correctly. For example, we make a custom paper size for 24x36 sheets that
> has a printable area of 24"x36". Then we just be careful not to draw
> anything too close to the edge. If we use a paper size with a smaller
> printable area, we get results like you described.
>
> Why do you use 36x64 paper to plot 24x36? Do you mean physical paper in
the
> manual feed tray, or do you mean paper setting in the plot setup?
>
> How are you sending the plots to your printer? Do you connect to it
> directly, or do you use the Document Submission Tool to send plot files to
> the plotter.
>
> Mark
>
> "Tom Berning" wrote in message
> news:FC9BDD8209B571A6B56A7902A1223594@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > We have a Xerox 8830 and are running Autocad 2000i. We just upgraded to
> > firmware version 6 and I wish I never decided to do this. Now when I try
> to
> > plot any drawing with a raster image, wipeout or textmask in it, the
plot
> > does one of 3 things and none of them are acceptable. For our 24x36
> drawings
> > we use a paper size of 36x64 and the plots have always come out with the
> > correct rotation and size. Now when I send drawings that have images,
> > textmask or wipeouts the 24x36 comes out 24 wide on the 36" roll and it
> cuts
> > off the last 1.5" of the drawing. I tried using the 36x24 paper size and
> the
> > plot comes out the correct rotation, but our 1/2" margins don't come out
> > correct. The leading edge comes out 3/4" and you can see the trim line
and
> > the trailing edge comes out 1/4". The 30x42 drawings plot on the 36"roll
> > instead of the 30" roll and the plot is shifted to the right side.
> >
> > We have a Xerox 8830 in another office and they have the same problem
> after
> > they upgraded to version 6 firmware. This problem is either caused by
> > something in the HDI driver or in the printer itself. I seem to think it
> is
> > something in the printer because we were not having this much of a
problem
> > when we had version 4 firmware. With version 4 firmware we would get one
> > drawing every once in a while that would not plot correctly, but all we
> > would have to do is trim the plot.
> >
> > I have downloaded the latest HDI driver from Xerox's website and that
> didn't
> > help. I even tried plotting from Autocad 2002 and that didn't help
either.
> I
> > tried creating a plot based on a HP 755 driver and that didn't work
> either.
> > Since the 755 driver didn't work it must be something with the firmware
> that
> > is causing the problem.
> >
> > If anyone has found a solution or a temporary fix, please let me know.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Tom Berning
> > Woolpert LLP
> >
> >
>
>

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