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dennis
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Appearance Profiler: Losing Profiles

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11-09-2011 10:12 AM

I just saw this happen and tested, where I was able to duplicate the issue.  I create some appearance profiles, I use SearchSets and assign them to colors, then save the NWF file.  If I load another NWF file, or just hit NEW, then reload the NWF with the Appearance Profiles, I still have the listing.  However, if I save the NWF with Profiles, and then close NW completely, when I reopen NW and load the NWF file that I had just saved with the Profiles, they are no longer listed.  I know I can save the profile out to a DAT file and reload, but would rather it be saved/embedded in the NWF file.  Am I missing a setting or is this flow as intended by the programmers?

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lee.mullin
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Re: Appearance Profiler: Losing Profiles

11-10-2011 03:22 AM in reply to: dennis

The appearance profiler just sets up color and transparency overrides. So when these are applied to the model, they are saved as per that model. It is likely that the model is being reopened with a viewpoint with different colors and transparencies set. So if you have the NWF set up with viewpoints that have the Hide/Required Setting switched on, with the previous colors and transparency settings, then these will override the ones you changed them to in the earlier session.

 

So to correct this you would need to ensure that the viewpoints do not have color and transparency overrides in them (Edit the Viewpoint and switch off Hide Required), then right click and update the Viewpoint. Or set up new viewpoints with the updated color and transparency overrides.

 

You can switch on or off Hide/Required in the Options > Interface > Viewpoint Defaults > Save Hide Required Attributes


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dennis
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Re: Appearance Profiler: Losing Profiles

11-10-2011 04:22 AM in reply to: lee.mullin

I am sorry Lee, I must of not made clear the problem I am seeing.  It has nothing to do with viewpoints.  It has to do with the list of profiles listed within the Appearance Profile dialog box.  If I create, let's say four profiles called: _STEEL, _ARCH, _DUCT, and _ELEC.  Each are defined using a SearchSet of the same name and assigned a color.  When I save the NWF, let's call it AP.NWF, open another NWF (or just hit the NEW button), then reload the previously saved AP.NWF, the four profiles are still listed within the Appearance Profile dialog: _STEEL, _ARCH, _DUCT, and _ELEC.  However, if I close Navisworks completely, and relaunch the application, reload the AP.NWF, when I open the Appearance Profiler dialog box, the four profiles are no longer listed and I have to reload the DAT file to get them back.  This seems like a bug to me, but ya never know, it may be the intent of the programmers.  I can post screen shots or a video if that will help.

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dennis
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Re: Appearance Profiler: Losing Profiles

11-10-2011 05:08 AM in reply to: dennis

Further testing: I went to our training room and tested on three different PCs, all with the same results.  The NWF file when saved does not retain the profiles created in the Appearance Profiler thus forcing us to use DAT files.  Seems to be the way it was programmed to function -or- maybe it is a bug that has just now been discovered.

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lee.mullin
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Re: Appearance Profiler: Losing Profiles

11-10-2011 05:45 AM in reply to: dennis

The profiles are not saved within the file, the Appearance profiler is a simpler way to color the model by search sets and selections, if you update the model and add more items that fall into a search, you would still need to 'Run' the Profiler again to recolor these items.

 

I've added an enhancement request for us to save this within the file

 

My mistake for misundertanding the problem.

 


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dennis
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Re: Appearance Profiler: Losing Profiles

11-10-2011 05:48 AM in reply to: lee.mullin

Thanks for letting me know that I am not messing up somewhere.  I also posted in the wishlist to have the profiles saved with the NWF file.

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FrenchQuarters
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Re: Appearance Profiler: Losing Profiles

11-19-2012 01:17 PM in reply to: dennis

Dennis,

Thanks for raising this question. I was getting confused about the exact same issue. The behaviour of the Appearance Profiler to not save it's settings is  so counter-intuitive that I though it was a bug.

and Lee, thanks for clarifying that for us. 

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mike
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Re: Appearance Profiler: Losing Profiles

11-19-2012 02:06 PM in reply to: FrenchQuarters

I 2nd that.......I hope they get it into 2014 next year..........

 

Mike

Michael L. Maloney
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mike@VirtualWorldDesigns.com
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