Hi Paul,
"Laurie - where should people who are accessing AutoCAD via COM and not
using a .NET language go for help?"
Would you go to the VBA newsgroup, this one, the general customisation
NG, the ObjectARX NG or onto the internet in general?
I'd come here on the grounds that I'd expect the general expertise (and
training as programmers) of .NET programmers to be higher than the
general (and training as programmers) expertise of VBA or lispers.
However the question is largely a furphy as very few questions from
programmers in other languages ever turn up in theses newsgroups. Even
when they do, they are rarely answered satisfactorily and almost never
by the VBAers.
"Wouldn't simple logic be to group questions by API and not by language?"
I can't see any more logic in that than setting up newsgroups by
language. And clearly Autodesk didn’t when setting up their newsgroup
structure. In their wisdom Autodesk set up a VBA NG long before they
set up the .NET NG. In VBA the issue of Managed Code v ActiveX/COM
programming doesn't arise and there is no reason to expect a VBA
programmer to have knowledge of what the difference is or what the
implications of that difference are. So you are arguing that based on a
distinction which need only be understood in .NET some .NET questions
should be sent to a newsgroup where knowledge of this distinction is
irrelevant
"Of course there will be crossover here but the more we properly group
questions the easier it is for users"
I couldn’t agree more. It’s the whole point of my posting. But why do
a small number of posters here make up their own minds that a particular
aspect of a programming language must be handled in a newsgroup where
the chances of the issue being understood are far lower than in the
newsgroup named to handle that language/issue?
"Just because you live in one world doesn't mean we should all keep the
VBA group just for ActiveX via VBA and everything else goes to the .NET
group. Just doesn't make any logical sense!"
Where I live and help is irrelevant. The approach that VBA uses ActiveX
therefore every ActiveX query should go to the VBA NG is far less
logical than following the names and labels assigned to the NGs by
Autodesk. Do you seriously expect that C programmers are going to be
able to get help from VBA programmers?
"The VBA group is going to be a lonely place once VBA is dead... Or
maybe someone will use some logic and rename it ActiveX since that is
where most of the ActiveX answers are stored!"
I don’t doubt that the 64 bit environment will kill VB6/VBA. However,
the logic you are referring to depends on a particular world view and it
is at complete odds with the naming and use of these newsgroups as well
as the likelihood of finding expertise to resolve a given problem.
Regards,
Laurie Comerford
Paul Richardson
> Laurie - where should people who are accessing AutoCAD via COM and not using
> a .NET language go for help? Bunches of programming languages can use COM
> and there are only a few AutoCAD APIs. Wouldn't simple logic be to group
> questions by API and not by language? Most competent coders are looking for
> API help when they come to these groups and go to language specific groups
> when they need help with their specific language.
>
> Of course there will be crossover here but the more we properly group
> questions the easier it is for users. Just because you live in one world
> doesn't mean we should all keep the VBA group just for ActiveX via VBA and
> everything else goes to the .NET group. Just doesn't make any logical sense!
>
> Where did COM questions go before the .NET group? The VBA group is going to
> be a lonely place once VBA is dead... Or maybe someone will use some logic
> and rename it ActiveX since that is where most of the ActiveX answers are
> stored!
>
> "Laurie" wrote in message
> news:6236198@discussion.autodesk.com...
> Hi Mario,
>
> In this case Tony's advice is based on his dyslexia and inability to
> understand English language names.
>
> The VBA newsgroup is NOT the ActiveX/COM newsgroup, it is the VBA
> newsgroup, and, since they are so similar by logical extension the VB6
> newsgroup.
>
> This is the .NET newsgroup, not just the managed half of .DOTNET newsgroup.
>
> Regardless of numbers of readers and posters, any help ever offered to
> any form of .NET programming in the other newsgroup is inevitably from
> Tony himself or from other readers whose posts you will see in both
> newsgroups. Please don't pollute that newsgroup with queries for which
> you will find the necessary expertise here.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Laurie Comerford
>
> TeiMar71 wrote:
>> Thanx Tony ... i understand!
>>
>> I tried to reference to the managed DLLs (acdbmgd.dll and acmgd.dll) from
>> AutoCAD 2008 but this doesn't really work.
>> The program is compileable but when i execute it, i get an
>> "File-Not-Found" exception!
>>
>> So i went back to the activex api.
>>
>> Regards
>> Mario
