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Great Potential!! Autocad walkthroughs with XBOX 360.

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Anonymous
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Great Potential!! Autocad walkthroughs with XBOX 360.

This presents an interesting development for presentation possibilities.
Has anyone else wanted to Play GTA with their subdivision designs???

It would not surprise me if subdivision design, grading, and hydrology get
taken to new levels (no pun intended) by modeling and simulating it with an
xbox 360.
--
CB
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Message 2 of 10
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Here is the link ooops.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/directx/xna/creators/



"CB" wrote in message
news:5422979@discussion.autodesk.com...
This presents an interesting development for presentation possibilities.
Has anyone else wanted to Play GTA with their subdivision designs???

It would not surprise me if subdivision design, grading, and hydrology get
taken to new levels (no pun intended) by modeling and simulating it with an
xbox 360.
--
CB
Message 3 of 10
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Glad to see others are tuning into this as I've said the same thing here and
elsewhere calling it a "new era of CAD" where robust interactive data models
respond to queries submitted from within an emersive user interface
experience with a response that can if warranted effect the model itself.
Second Life is out front and is particularly indicative of this trend. The
mapping services from Google Earth and Microsfot's Virtual Earth are also
partiularly suited to the new era. However, neither cable or DSL as
provisioned are providing sufficient bandwidth which is already crippling
the new era. We need more dilithium crystals Scotty 🙂

Have you heard of or used any of the applications in Microsoft's emerging
Expression Suite yet? Has the XAML light bulb gone off for you yet?

<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
MAP http://wikimapia.org/#y=43038073&x=-88043838&z=17&l=0&m=h


"CB" wrote in message
news:5423002@discussion.autodesk.com...
Here is the link ooops.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/directx/xna/creators/



"CB" wrote in message
news:5422979@discussion.autodesk.com...
This presents an interesting development for presentation possibilities.
Has anyone else wanted to Play GTA with their subdivision designs???

It would not surprise me if subdivision design, grading, and hydrology get
taken to new levels (no pun intended) by modeling and simulating it with an
xbox 360.
--
CB
Message 4 of 10
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I could not believe that I beat you to the punch on this.

It is not that it is necessarily new technology that makes utilizing a game
system tantalizing. What is promising is that Microsoft is playing nice
with its API's and game systems that makes XAML and interactive shared
models worth while. I would recon that creating custom walkthrough
environments with a game engine is nothing new.... but utilizing a standard
xbox has marketing potential. It would be a pretty clever business model to
generate xbox style games of future subdivisions for builders to hand out as
marketing material. It might even be cool to log on to xbox live and check
out MLS home listings with immersive models. There might be a completely
untapped market for 3d modeling outside of design and video games.

On a side note I would love to turn the Nintendo ds into an immersive GPS
device. I figure the biggest change in future technology will not be the
technology itself but how much access developers outside of large
corporations get to innovate with it. Microsoft has done a great job of
getting many developers to buy into their tools but ultimately giving free
access to API's will probably dominate and spur on any new era that you are
referring too.

I still think I have a few subdivisions that would be great ported to GTA.
--
CB


"clintonG" wrote in message
news:5424749@discussion.autodesk.com...
Glad to see others are tuning into this as I've said the same thing here and
elsewhere calling it a "new era of CAD" where robust interactive data models
respond to queries submitted from within an emersive user interface
experience with a response that can if warranted effect the model itself.
Second Life is out front and is particularly indicative of this trend. The
mapping services from Google Earth and Microsfot's Virtual Earth are also
partiularly suited to the new era. However, neither cable or DSL as
provisioned are providing sufficient bandwidth which is already crippling
the new era. We need more dilithium crystals Scotty 🙂

Have you heard of or used any of the applications in Microsoft's emerging
Expression Suite yet? Has the XAML light bulb gone off for you yet?

<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
MAP http://wikimapia.org/#y=43038073&x=-88043838&z=17&l=0&m=h


"CB" wrote in message
news:5423002@discussion.autodesk.com...
Here is the link ooops.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/directx/xna/creators/



"CB" wrote in message
news:5422979@discussion.autodesk.com...
This presents an interesting development for presentation possibilities.
Has anyone else wanted to Play GTA with their subdivision designs???

It would not surprise me if subdivision design, grading, and hydrology get
taken to new levels (no pun intended) by modeling and simulating it with an
xbox 360.
--
CB
Message 5 of 10
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I couldn't agree more and I really do think you have the vision thing and
say hell yes there are emerging markets in emersive environments. The
Lindens have proven this with Second Life which I happen to think will be
short lived compared to what can and will emerge from the XBox and similar
platforms. So you better get busy and get into the XNA Creators Club 🙂

But really, with the context of subdivision development you've been talking
about don't you think Google Earth or Virtual Earth might prove more
pragmatic for the time being?


<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
MAP http://wikimapia.org/#y=43038073&x=-88043838&z=17&l=0&m=h



"CB" wrote in message
news:5424971@discussion.autodesk.com...
I could not believe that I beat you to the punch on this.

It is not that it is necessarily new technology that makes utilizing a game
system tantalizing. What is promising is that Microsoft is playing nice
with its API's and game systems that makes XAML and interactive shared
models worth while. I would recon that creating custom walkthrough
environments with a game engine is nothing new.... but utilizing a standard
xbox has marketing potential. It would be a pretty clever business model to
generate xbox style games of future subdivisions for builders to hand out as
marketing material. It might even be cool to log on to xbox live and check
out MLS home listings with immersive models. There might be a completely
untapped market for 3d modeling outside of design and video games.

On a side note I would love to turn the Nintendo ds into an immersive GPS
device. I figure the biggest change in future technology will not be the
technology itself but how much access developers outside of large
corporations get to innovate with it. Microsoft has done a great job of
getting many developers to buy into their tools but ultimately giving free
access to API's will probably dominate and spur on any new era that you are
referring too.

I still think I have a few subdivisions that would be great ported to GTA.
--
CB


"clintonG" wrote in message
news:5424749@discussion.autodesk.com...
Glad to see others are tuning into this as I've said the same thing here and
elsewhere calling it a "new era of CAD" where robust interactive data models
respond to queries submitted from within an emersive user interface
experience with a response that can if warranted effect the model itself.
Second Life is out front and is particularly indicative of this trend. The
mapping services from Google Earth and Microsfot's Virtual Earth are also
partiularly suited to the new era. However, neither cable or DSL as
provisioned are providing sufficient bandwidth which is already crippling
the new era. We need more dilithium crystals Scotty 🙂

Have you heard of or used any of the applications in Microsoft's emerging
Expression Suite yet? Has the XAML light bulb gone off for you yet?

<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
MAP http://wikimapia.org/#y=43038073&x=-88043838&z=17&l=0&m=h


"CB" wrote in message
news:5423002@discussion.autodesk.com...
Here is the link ooops.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/directx/xna/creators/



"CB" wrote in message
news:5422979@discussion.autodesk.com...
This presents an interesting development for presentation possibilities.
Has anyone else wanted to Play GTA with their subdivision designs???

It would not surprise me if subdivision design, grading, and hydrology get
taken to new levels (no pun intended) by modeling and simulating it with an
xbox 360.
--
CB
Message 6 of 10
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Yes, I am actually currently focused on Google Earth hacks but this is very
tempting.
--
CB



"clintonG" wrote in message
news:5426930@discussion.autodesk.com...
I couldn't agree more and I really do think you have the vision thing and
say hell yes there are emerging markets in emersive environments. The
Lindens have proven this with Second Life which I happen to think will be
short lived compared to what can and will emerge from the XBox and similar
platforms. So you better get busy and get into the XNA Creators Club 🙂

But really, with the context of subdivision development you've been talking
about don't you think Google Earth or Virtual Earth might prove more
pragmatic for the time being?


<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
MAP http://wikimapia.org/#y=43038073&x=-88043838&z=17&l=0&m=h



"CB" wrote in message
news:5424971@discussion.autodesk.com...
I could not believe that I beat you to the punch on this.

It is not that it is necessarily new technology that makes utilizing a game
system tantalizing. What is promising is that Microsoft is playing nice
with its API's and game systems that makes XAML and interactive shared
models worth while. I would recon that creating custom walkthrough
environments with a game engine is nothing new.... but utilizing a standard
xbox has marketing potential. It would be a pretty clever business model to
generate xbox style games of future subdivisions for builders to hand out as
marketing material. It might even be cool to log on to xbox live and check
out MLS home listings with immersive models. There might be a completely
untapped market for 3d modeling outside of design and video games.

On a side note I would love to turn the Nintendo ds into an immersive GPS
device. I figure the biggest change in future technology will not be the
technology itself but how much access developers outside of large
corporations get to innovate with it. Microsoft has done a great job of
getting many developers to buy into their tools but ultimately giving free
access to API's will probably dominate and spur on any new era that you are
referring too.

I still think I have a few subdivisions that would be great ported to GTA.
--
CB


"clintonG" wrote in message
news:5424749@discussion.autodesk.com...
Glad to see others are tuning into this as I've said the same thing here and
elsewhere calling it a "new era of CAD" where robust interactive data models
respond to queries submitted from within an emersive user interface
experience with a response that can if warranted effect the model itself.
Second Life is out front and is particularly indicative of this trend. The
mapping services from Google Earth and Microsfot's Virtual Earth are also
partiularly suited to the new era. However, neither cable or DSL as
provisioned are providing sufficient bandwidth which is already crippling
the new era. We need more dilithium crystals Scotty 🙂

Have you heard of or used any of the applications in Microsoft's emerging
Expression Suite yet? Has the XAML light bulb gone off for you yet?

<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
MAP http://wikimapia.org/#y=43038073&x=-88043838&z=17&l=0&m=h


"CB" wrote in message
news:5423002@discussion.autodesk.com...
Here is the link ooops.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/directx/xna/creators/



"CB" wrote in message
news:5422979@discussion.autodesk.com...
This presents an interesting development for presentation possibilities.
Has anyone else wanted to Play GTA with their subdivision designs???

It would not surprise me if subdivision design, grading, and hydrology get
taken to new levels (no pun intended) by modeling and simulating it with an
xbox 360.
--
CB
Message 7 of 10
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

You probably want to watch this inspirational video [1]. I think I asked
already but have you used the Expression Suite applications yet? They
generate the XAML.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
MAP http://wikimapia.org/#y=43038073&x=-88043838&z=17&l=0&m=h


[1] http://channel9.msdn.com/showpost.aspx?postid=266036


"CB" wrote in message
news:5427387@discussion.autodesk.com...
Yes, I am actually currently focused on Google Earth hacks but this is very
tempting.
--
CB



"clintonG" wrote in message
news:5426930@discussion.autodesk.com...
I couldn't agree more and I really do think you have the vision thing and
say hell yes there are emerging markets in emersive environments. The
Lindens have proven this with Second Life which I happen to think will be
short lived compared to what can and will emerge from the XBox and similar
platforms. So you better get busy and get into the XNA Creators Club 🙂

But really, with the context of subdivision development you've been talking
about don't you think Google Earth or Virtual Earth might prove more
pragmatic for the time being?


<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
MAP http://wikimapia.org/#y=43038073&x=-88043838&z=17&l=0&m=h



"CB" wrote in message
news:5424971@discussion.autodesk.com...
I could not believe that I beat you to the punch on this.

It is not that it is necessarily new technology that makes utilizing a game
system tantalizing. What is promising is that Microsoft is playing nice
with its API's and game systems that makes XAML and interactive shared
models worth while. I would recon that creating custom walkthrough
environments with a game engine is nothing new.... but utilizing a standard
xbox has marketing potential. It would be a pretty clever business model to
generate xbox style games of future subdivisions for builders to hand out as
marketing material. It might even be cool to log on to xbox live and check
out MLS home listings with immersive models. There might be a completely
untapped market for 3d modeling outside of design and video games.

On a side note I would love to turn the Nintendo ds into an immersive GPS
device. I figure the biggest change in future technology will not be the
technology itself but how much access developers outside of large
corporations get to innovate with it. Microsoft has done a great job of
getting many developers to buy into their tools but ultimately giving free
access to API's will probably dominate and spur on any new era that you are
referring too.

I still think I have a few subdivisions that would be great ported to GTA.
--
CB


"clintonG" wrote in message
news:5424749@discussion.autodesk.com...
Glad to see others are tuning into this as I've said the same thing here and
elsewhere calling it a "new era of CAD" where robust interactive data models
respond to queries submitted from within an emersive user interface
experience with a response that can if warranted effect the model itself.
Second Life is out front and is particularly indicative of this trend. The
mapping services from Google Earth and Microsfot's Virtual Earth are also
partiularly suited to the new era. However, neither cable or DSL as
provisioned are providing sufficient bandwidth which is already crippling
the new era. We need more dilithium crystals Scotty 🙂

Have you heard of or used any of the applications in Microsoft's emerging
Expression Suite yet? Has the XAML light bulb gone off for you yet?

<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
MAP http://wikimapia.org/#y=43038073&x=-88043838&z=17&l=0&m=h


"CB" wrote in message
news:5423002@discussion.autodesk.com...
Here is the link ooops.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/directx/xna/creators/



"CB" wrote in message
news:5422979@discussion.autodesk.com...
This presents an interesting development for presentation possibilities.
Has anyone else wanted to Play GTA with their subdivision designs???

It would not surprise me if subdivision design, grading, and hydrology get
taken to new levels (no pun intended) by modeling and simulating it with an
xbox 360.
--
CB
Message 8 of 10
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I honestly have not looked into the Expression Suite yet. I have been too
busy trying to utilize older technology and get ideas that I had 2 years ago
up and running. I will take a serious look at the expression suite and your
link soon.
--
CB


"clintonG" wrote in message
news:5427889@discussion.autodesk.com...
You probably want to watch this inspirational video [1]. I think I asked
already but have you used the Expression Suite applications yet? They
generate the XAML.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
MAP http://wikimapia.org/#y=43038073&x=-88043838&z=17&l=0&m=h


[1] http://channel9.msdn.com/showpost.aspx?postid=266036


"CB" wrote in message
news:5427387@discussion.autodesk.com...
Yes, I am actually currently focused on Google Earth hacks but this is very
tempting.
--
CB



"clintonG" wrote in message
news:5426930@discussion.autodesk.com...
I couldn't agree more and I really do think you have the vision thing and
say hell yes there are emerging markets in emersive environments. The
Lindens have proven this with Second Life which I happen to think will be
short lived compared to what can and will emerge from the XBox and similar
platforms. So you better get busy and get into the XNA Creators Club 🙂

But really, with the context of subdivision development you've been talking
about don't you think Google Earth or Virtual Earth might prove more
pragmatic for the time being?


<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
MAP http://wikimapia.org/#y=43038073&x=-88043838&z=17&l=0&m=h



"CB" wrote in message
news:5424971@discussion.autodesk.com...
I could not believe that I beat you to the punch on this.

It is not that it is necessarily new technology that makes utilizing a game
system tantalizing. What is promising is that Microsoft is playing nice
with its API's and game systems that makes XAML and interactive shared
models worth while. I would recon that creating custom walkthrough
environments with a game engine is nothing new.... but utilizing a standard
xbox has marketing potential. It would be a pretty clever business model to
generate xbox style games of future subdivisions for builders to hand out as
marketing material. It might even be cool to log on to xbox live and check
out MLS home listings with immersive models. There might be a completely
untapped market for 3d modeling outside of design and video games.

On a side note I would love to turn the Nintendo ds into an immersive GPS
device. I figure the biggest change in future technology will not be the
technology itself but how much access developers outside of large
corporations get to innovate with it. Microsoft has done a great job of
getting many developers to buy into their tools but ultimately giving free
access to API's will probably dominate and spur on any new era that you are
referring too.

I still think I have a few subdivisions that would be great ported to GTA.
--
CB


"clintonG" wrote in message
news:5424749@discussion.autodesk.com...
Glad to see others are tuning into this as I've said the same thing here and
elsewhere calling it a "new era of CAD" where robust interactive data models
respond to queries submitted from within an emersive user interface
experience with a response that can if warranted effect the model itself.
Second Life is out front and is particularly indicative of this trend. The
mapping services from Google Earth and Microsfot's Virtual Earth are also
partiularly suited to the new era. However, neither cable or DSL as
provisioned are providing sufficient bandwidth which is already crippling
the new era. We need more dilithium crystals Scotty 🙂

Have you heard of or used any of the applications in Microsoft's emerging
Expression Suite yet? Has the XAML light bulb gone off for you yet?

<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
MAP http://wikimapia.org/#y=43038073&x=-88043838&z=17&l=0&m=h


"CB" wrote in message
news:5423002@discussion.autodesk.com...
Here is the link ooops.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/directx/xna/creators/



"CB" wrote in message
news:5422979@discussion.autodesk.com...
This presents an interesting development for presentation possibilities.
Has anyone else wanted to Play GTA with their subdivision designs???

It would not surprise me if subdivision design, grading, and hydrology get
taken to new levels (no pun intended) by modeling and simulating it with an
xbox 360.
--
CB
Message 9 of 10
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

What would be the difference between inkscape (what I currently use) and
Expression Design?
--
CB



"clintonG" wrote in message
news:5429282@discussion.autodesk.com...
Don't waste any time with Expression Web , its a FrontPage replacement and
clone of Dreamweaver (not too bad either but still crippleware as it fails
to ingteroperate with Visual Studio). What you want to know about is
Expression Design (a vector drawing tool which outputs XAML) and Expression
Blend (an IDE to wire up the items drawn in Expression Design).

I haven't been able to download any of them because their servers are FUBAR.
Good luck... hope you get your XBox for Christmas 🙂

<%= Clinton Gallagher



"CB" wrote in message
news:5428972@discussion.autodesk.com...
I honestly have not looked into the Expression Suite yet. I have been too
busy trying to utilize older technology and get ideas that I had 2 years ago
up and running. I will take a serious look at the expression suite and your
link soon.
--
CB


"clintonG" wrote in message
news:5427889@discussion.autodesk.com...
You probably want to watch this inspirational video [1]. I think I asked
already but have you used the Expression Suite applications yet? They
generate the XAML.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
MAP http://wikimapia.org/#y=43038073&x=-88043838&z=17&l=0&m=h


[1] http://channel9.msdn.com/showpost.aspx?postid=266036


"CB" wrote in message
news:5427387@discussion.autodesk.com...
Yes, I am actually currently focused on Google Earth hacks but this is very
tempting.
--
CB



"clintonG" wrote in message
news:5426930@discussion.autodesk.com...
I couldn't agree more and I really do think you have the vision thing and
say hell yes there are emerging markets in emersive environments. The
Lindens have proven this with Second Life which I happen to think will be
short lived compared to what can and will emerge from the XBox and similar
platforms. So you better get busy and get into the XNA Creators Club 🙂

But really, with the context of subdivision development you've been talking
about don't you think Google Earth or Virtual Earth might prove more
pragmatic for the time being?


<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
MAP http://wikimapia.org/#y=43038073&x=-88043838&z=17&l=0&m=h



"CB" wrote in message
news:5424971@discussion.autodesk.com...
I could not believe that I beat you to the punch on this.

It is not that it is necessarily new technology that makes utilizing a game
system tantalizing. What is promising is that Microsoft is playing nice
with its API's and game systems that makes XAML and interactive shared
models worth while. I would recon that creating custom walkthrough
environments with a game engine is nothing new.... but utilizing a standard
xbox has marketing potential. It would be a pretty clever business model to
generate xbox style games of future subdivisions for builders to hand out as
marketing material. It might even be cool to log on to xbox live and check
out MLS home listings with immersive models. There might be a completely
untapped market for 3d modeling outside of design and video games.

On a side note I would love to turn the Nintendo ds into an immersive GPS
device. I figure the biggest change in future technology will not be the
technology itself but how much access developers outside of large
corporations get to innovate with it. Microsoft has done a great job of
getting many developers to buy into their tools but ultimately giving free
access to API's will probably dominate and spur on any new era that you are
referring too.

I still think I have a few subdivisions that would be great ported to GTA.
--
CB


"clintonG" wrote in message
news:5424749@discussion.autodesk.com...
Glad to see others are tuning into this as I've said the same thing here and
elsewhere calling it a "new era of CAD" where robust interactive data models
respond to queries submitted from within an emersive user interface
experience with a response that can if warranted effect the model itself.
Second Life is out front and is particularly indicative of this trend. The
mapping services from Google Earth and Microsfot's Virtual Earth are also
partiularly suited to the new era. However, neither cable or DSL as
provisioned are providing sufficient bandwidth which is already crippling
the new era. We need more dilithium crystals Scotty 🙂

Have you heard of or used any of the applications in Microsoft's emerging
Expression Suite yet? Has the XAML light bulb gone off for you yet?

<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
MAP http://wikimapia.org/#y=43038073&x=-88043838&z=17&l=0&m=h


"CB" wrote in message
news:5423002@discussion.autodesk.com...
Here is the link ooops.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/directx/xna/creators/



"CB" wrote in message
news:5422979@discussion.autodesk.com...
This presents an interesting development for presentation possibilities.
Has anyone else wanted to Play GTA with their subdivision designs???

It would not surprise me if subdivision design, grading, and hydrology get
taken to new levels (no pun intended) by modeling and simulating it with an
xbox 360.
--
CB
Message 10 of 10
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

As I see it there's not much difference. All you need to be concerned with
would be the vector file format(s) your preferred application can output --
or -- if the preferred application can output directly to XAML. If the
application outputs XAML you pass go and can go directly to the head of the
class directly into the new IDEs that are being developed. Expression Blend
(Flash clone) is an IDE in the same sense as Adobe's Flash IDE replete with
timeline, stage and so on. I have no idea if there are other XAML IDEs
available yet.

If the application does not output XAML you need to be concered with which
vector file format(s) the application can output to enable the file(s) to be
imported into Expression Blend or some other XAML IDE.

Both Autodesk and Microsoft paid something like $10,000 to sit on the W3C
SVG working group to spy on what was going on. As it turns out all they were
doing was spying so they could cripple their products to obstruct, hinder
and prevent the standardization of SVG. However, there may very well be an
SVG to XAML conversion solution already developed.

Go into the microsoft.public.expression newsgroups and look around. You'll
immediately come to conclude they are still struggling with dancing monkeys
and basic user interface items like buttons. In any event you're really
early and in good shape. You have plenty of time to work it out and nothing
to worry about with regard to your unique concepts.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
MAP http://wikimapia.org/#y=43038073&x=-88043838&z=17&l=0&m=h

"CB" wrote in message
news:5429421@discussion.autodesk.com...
What would be the difference between inkscape (what I currently use) and
Expression Design?
--
CB



"clintonG" wrote in message
news:5429282@discussion.autodesk.com...
Don't waste any time with Expression Web , its a FrontPage replacement and
clone of Dreamweaver (not too bad either but still crippleware as it fails
to ingteroperate with Visual Studio). What you want to know about is
Expression Design (a vector drawing tool which outputs XAML) and Expression
Blend (an IDE to wire up the items drawn in Expression Design).

I haven't been able to download any of them because their servers are FUBAR.
Good luck... hope you get your XBox for Christmas 🙂

<%= Clinton Gallagher



"CB" wrote in message
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I honestly have not looked into the Expression Suite yet. I have been too
busy trying to utilize older technology and get ideas that I had 2 years ago
up and running. I will take a serious look at the expression suite and your
link soon.
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CB


"clintonG" wrote in message
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You probably want to watch this inspirational video [1]. I think I asked
already but have you used the Expression Suite applications yet? They
generate the XAML.

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[1] http://channel9.msdn.com/showpost.aspx?postid=266036


"CB" wrote in message
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Yes, I am actually currently focused on Google Earth hacks but this is very
tempting.
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CB



"clintonG" wrote in message
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I couldn't agree more and I really do think you have the vision thing and
say hell yes there are emerging markets in emersive environments. The
Lindens have proven this with Second Life which I happen to think will be
short lived compared to what can and will emerge from the XBox and similar
platforms. So you better get busy and get into the XNA Creators Club 🙂

But really, with the context of subdivision development you've been talking
about don't you think Google Earth or Virtual Earth might prove more
pragmatic for the time being?


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"CB" wrote in message
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I could not believe that I beat you to the punch on this.

It is not that it is necessarily new technology that makes utilizing a game
system tantalizing. What is promising is that Microsoft is playing nice
with its API's and game systems that makes XAML and interactive shared
models worth while. I would recon that creating custom walkthrough
environments with a game engine is nothing new.... but utilizing a standard
xbox has marketing potential. It would be a pretty clever business model to
generate xbox style games of future subdivisions for builders to hand out as
marketing material. It might even be cool to log on to xbox live and check
out MLS home listings with immersive models. There might be a completely
untapped market for 3d modeling outside of design and video games.

On a side note I would love to turn the Nintendo ds into an immersive GPS
device. I figure the biggest change in future technology will not be the
technology itself but how much access developers outside of large
corporations get to innovate with it. Microsoft has done a great job of
getting many developers to buy into their tools but ultimately giving free
access to API's will probably dominate and spur on any new era that you are
referring too.

I still think I have a few subdivisions that would be great ported to GTA.
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CB


"clintonG" wrote in message
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Glad to see others are tuning into this as I've said the same thing here and
elsewhere calling it a "new era of CAD" where robust interactive data models
respond to queries submitted from within an emersive user interface
experience with a response that can if warranted effect the model itself.
Second Life is out front and is particularly indicative of this trend. The
mapping services from Google Earth and Microsfot's Virtual Earth are also
partiularly suited to the new era. However, neither cable or DSL as
provisioned are providing sufficient bandwidth which is already crippling
the new era. We need more dilithium crystals Scotty 🙂

Have you heard of or used any of the applications in Microsoft's emerging
Expression Suite yet? Has the XAML light bulb gone off for you yet?

<%= Clinton Gallagher
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"CB" wrote in message
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Here is the link ooops.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/directx/xna/creators/



"CB" wrote in message
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This presents an interesting development for presentation possibilities.
Has anyone else wanted to Play GTA with their subdivision designs???

It would not surprise me if subdivision design, grading, and hydrology get
taken to new levels (no pun intended) by modeling and simulating it with an
xbox 360.
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CB

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