Mechanical Desktop

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*Alex
Message 31 of 93 (370 Views)

Re: Announcement concerning Discontinuation of Mechanical Desktop

11-13-2008 06:40 AM in reply to: sjbosley

I've thought I'll never discuss that matter
anymore due the waste time.

This is obvious that MDT is far more advanced
program versus IV and others in all aspects due it's uniqueness.

I just want to make a wish list.

There was a add-on in earlier version MDT
called Dynamic Designer.

It was integrated in MDT as a toolbar or stand
along prog.

You were able to dynamically simulate assembly
within MDT.

Unfortunately they discontinued it for MDT and
integrate it for IV and Solide Edge?

Looks like they bet on the wrong horses since IV
has own simulation and Solid Edge is not as popular as MDT.

Their web site:


So if MDT users interestig to add this feature to
program you can

send them message.

I will be the first one who buy it.

Al

 

 


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If
I read your reply to Aug really fast, it almost sounds like you care...
NOT...!!!
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sjbosley
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Registered: ‎09-08-2006
Message 32 of 93 (370 Views)

Re: Announcement concerning Discontinuation of Mechanical Desktop

11-13-2008 12:28 PM in reply to: sjbosley

Dear Mr. Floren

As a company we've made the decision to focus on Inventor as our flagship 3D product. We understand that Mechanical Desktop is still an excellent solution for certain segments of the manufacturing industry and that we have customers, yourself included, who would prefer to continue using Mechanical Desktop.

We have taken specific steps to minimize the impact of this change.

First we will continue to provide activations for another three years and our QA organization will continue to test the data translation and migration capabilities to protect the intellectual property contained in your existing Mechanical Desktop files.

Second we have incorporated many of the best aspects/key features of Mechanical Desktop into recent releases of Inventor with the intention of providing you with the "best of both worlds". This process is driven by customer input with the goal of making Inventor the best alternative to Mechanical Desktop.

I realize that any change of this nature is not without cost but I urge you to also consider the benefits of moving to Inventor. This is an extremely capable and stable product that has benefited greatly from lessons learned with Mechanical Desktop. There are many, many customers who have successfully made this transition and who use Inventor for the creation of complex assemblies and production drawings.

Sincerely

Simon Bosley

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ed.galicki
Posts: 14
Registered: ‎12-04-2006
Message 33 of 93 (370 Views)

Re: Announcement concerning Discontinuation of Mechanical Desktop

11-13-2008 02:07 PM in reply to: sjbosley
I can't believe how you guys betrayed us.

I have just convinced one of my biggest clients to switch from Pro-E, which they used for years, to MDT. They bought the new MDT-2008 and have started working into it - and now this.

You have lost me at a subscription member. I will not be renewing. I will go back to Pro-E, or even Solidworks. I can't believe you are giving up any part of the market, even if it is a small part. I keep every customer, even the ones who only do an hour or two a month or less. Maybe you have such a big market share somewhere else that you feel you can throw us MDT users in the trash.

You also ruined MDT when you made the version that will not allow materials on parts so you can make some transparent to see components inside an assembly. This is one of the stupidest things I have see Autodesk do in many years. But now you have topped that by throwing all MDT users in the toilet and flushed us.

You have also made me look like a total idiot to customers that I have persuaded to switch to MDT. They have assemblies built, and cannot see inside them without some kind of idiotic solution like ACIS out and ACIS in to another drawing - and manually apply materials to some of the hundreds of parts in the assembly. Do you have any idea how ludicrous this solution is?

Goodbye - it has been a nice long relationship since about 1987 - but you have closed the door on it.

Ed Galicki
San Diego, Ca.
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ed.galicki
Posts: 14
Registered: ‎12-04-2006
Message 34 of 93 (370 Views)

Re: Announcement concerning Discontinuation of Mechanical Desktop

11-13-2008 02:14 PM in reply to: sjbosley
I am also using MDT6, and cannot find anything that can keep up with it. I have designed, drafted, and helped fabricate and assemble and test several million dollars worth of extremely advanced systems, electrical, high voltage, optical, medical, etc etc. None of the other versions beyond will allow what I can do in a microsecond with MDT6.

I recently convinced some of my bigger clients to switch to MDT, from Pro-E, but they had to buy MDT2008; and they can't even make components like enclosures transparent so they can see components inside them. Totally ridiculous. The can't think anything of me except that I am an idiot now.

If you want to form some kind of group or gang to make continuing with this more possible please contact me.

I am so absolutely disgusted that they would throw us MDT users in the toilet after we supported them and enabled them to make all the changes and 'advances' over the years. Now we don't count for anything, like human waste.

Ed Galicki
San Diego, Ca. Edited by: ed.galicki@dds-sd.com on Nov 13, 2008 10:28 PM
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ed.galicki
Posts: 14
Registered: ‎12-04-2006
Message 35 of 93 (370 Views)

Re: Announcement concerning Discontinuation of Mechanical Desktop

11-13-2008 02:19 PM in reply to: sjbosley
I feel exactly like you do or more - keep in touch if you find any solutions that can work MDT especially 6 any longer than it looks like now. Do you suppose there is a way to get someone who purchased MDT on my insistence, and got stuck with MDT-2008, to be able to load MDT6 instead? Edited by: ed.galicki@dds-sd.com on Nov 13, 2008 10:25 PM
*Jason Rhymes
Message 36 of 93 (370 Views)

Re: Announcement concerning Discontinuation of Mechanical Desktop

11-13-2008 02:20 PM in reply to: sjbosley

Look for the AMCHLAY lisp on the internet. Use it to put the parts on a
separate layer and use materialattach to attach the material to the layer. Works
fine here.


--

Jason Rhymes
3D Solid Power Toys
including Multi Solid
Stretch

href="http://www.acadianagraphics.com">http://www.acadianagraphics.com

 


 


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I
can't believe how you guys betrayed us. I have just convinced one of my
biggest clients to switch from Pro-E, which they used for years, to MDT. They
bought the new MDT-2008 and have started working into it - and now this. You
have lost me at a subscription member. I will not be renewing. I will go back
to Pro-E, or even Solidworks. I can't believe you are giving up any part of
the market, even if it is a small part. I keep every customer, even the ones
who only do an hour or two a month or less. Maybe you have such a big market
share somewhere else that you feel you can throw us MDT users in the trash.
You also ruined MDT when you made the version that will not allow materials on
parts so you can make some transparent to see components inside an assembly.
This is one of the stupidest things I have see Autodesk do in many years. But
now you have topped that by throwing all MDT users in the toilet and flushed
us. You have also made me look like a total idiot to customers that I have
persuaded to switch to MDT. They have assemblies built, and cannot see inside
them without some kind of idiotic solution like ACIS out and ACIS in to
another drawing - and manually apply materials to some of the hundreds of
parts in the assembly. Do you have any idea how ludicrous this solution is?
Goodbye - it has been a nice long relationship since about 1987 - but you have
closed the door on it. Ed Galicki San Diego, Ca.
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ed.galicki
Posts: 14
Registered: ‎12-04-2006
Message 37 of 93 (370 Views)

Re: Announcement concerning Discontinuation of Mechanical Desktop

11-13-2008 02:24 PM in reply to: sjbosley
I agree strongly - except that I think it should be kept at the MDT6 level so the parts in an assembly can have materials added so you can easily see through, for example, an enclosure, to see parts inside. Now you have to do ACIS out and ACIS in to do this. Absolutely ludicrous. Pathetic. Edited by: ed.galicki@dds-sd.com on Nov 13, 2008 10:27 PM
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ed.galicki
Posts: 14
Registered: ‎12-04-2006
Message 38 of 93 (370 Views)

Re: Announcement concerning Discontinuation of Mechanical Desktop

11-13-2008 02:32 PM in reply to: sjbosley
I have been trying to get this to work but not with that lisp program. I put the part properties on a layer, and then autocad properties of the part on that layer, then the insertion of thepart in the assembly on that layer and it still doesn't work. I will try this program to see if that will work. Thanks for the next thing to try.

eg
*Jason Rhymes
Message 39 of 93 (370 Views)

Re: Announcement concerning Discontinuation of Mechanical Desktop

11-13-2008 02:41 PM in reply to: sjbosley

Alot of these renders (
href="http://www.acadianagraphics.com/examples.htm">http://www.acadianagraphics.com/examples.htm
) were
done with MDT 2007 and this technique so I know it works, just took some getting
use to.


--

Jason Rhymes
3D Solid Power Toys
including Multi Solid
Stretch

href="http://www.acadianagraphics.com">http://www.acadianagraphics.com

 


 


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I
have been trying to get this to work but not with that lisp program. I put the
part properties on a layer, and then autocad properties of the part on that
layer, then the insertion of thepart in the assembly on that layer and it
still doesn't work. I will try this program to see if that will work. Thanks
for the next thing to try. eg
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ed.galicki
Posts: 14
Registered: ‎12-04-2006
Message 40 of 93 (370 Views)

Re: Announcement concerning Discontinuation of Mechanical Desktop

11-13-2008 02:56 PM in reply to: sjbosley
I found AMCHLAY.LSP on a board but when I downloaded it the dialog box was missing so it will not run. Any idea where I might find the other part so I can try it?

Thanks

Ed Galicki
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