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why I rant

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Message 1 of 29
jletcher
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why I rant

Here is a prime example of the reason I rant about new interface...

 

I know this has nothing to do with the new interface but does it. all the time they screwed with the new interface they could have been fixing this kind of stuff.

WTF.JPG

You want a new interface get inventor to work with less bugs oh I know you can't get rid of all the bugs or can you?

 

To move forward without fixing the issues you have.

 

So if I offend any of the users in the fourms I am sorry but when I am working hard and need to do something and Inventor does not and then a new Interface comes into play but yet the bug that was in the old release is never fixed this is why they want you on subscription so maybe some day in the next 200 releases this bug in 2011 may get fixed.

 

OK I'm done.....

 

Any one know what pic is here?

 

 

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Message 2 of 29

Hi  jletcher,

 

I suspect your help files did not install correctly due to profiles, permissions, or something of that kind. I don't think what you're seeing is typical of all Inventor installs. I'd suggest posting on the Installation & Licensing forum to see if there is a known issue with help installs for your version:

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/Installation-Licensing/bd-p/24

 

I hope this helps.
Best of luck to you in all of your Inventor pursuits,
Curtis
http://inventortrenches.blogspot.com

Message 3 of 29

This is that local help you had me load in my post about help file.

 

I have all permissions when I load Inventor and this was a new CPU well 4 new machines and they all are the same way no virus protection no spyware out of box did all they said to do in the install section.

 

Half the help shows a red X or it says cannot display.

 

In 2004-2005-2006-2007-2008-2009-2010 I never had this kind of issues this started when they decided to do this wiki help.

 

I will post in there..

 

Again sorry for rant....

Message 4 of 29

Hi  jletcher,

 

Yeah, the fact that the online files weren't working and now the local files aren't either makes me suspect that something is getting blocked.

 

I found this link, it's for a different product, but this is the kind of thing that I would think is the issue:

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/Installation-Licensing/Civil-3D-2012-not-loading-help-files/m-p/306223...

 

I hope this helps.
Best of luck to you in all of your Inventor pursuits,
Curtis
http://inventortrenches.blogspot.com

 

 

Message 5 of 29

Well not sure because so of the things I can't see I can on 2 other machines but not the other and some I can see and they can't.

 

I read what they had not sure if I have a day to un-install and re-install but may have too..

 

can't get anything done if I can't find the code I need...

 

Thanks for the help I know you hate my rants and sorry for them .

 

I guess I need to learn not to rant when I get upset.....

 

Thanks for the reply..

Message 6 of 29
Inv_kaos
in reply to: jletcher

Technically I don't think you can still call the interface 'new'.

 

The programming help works in 2013, see attached for missing pictures.

 

There are a couple of tutorials on mcadForums regarding these VBA functions but you will have to request the old link to be fixed. Regardless you can do most of this much easier now with iLogic.

Please mark as "Accept as Solution" if it answers your question or "Kudos" if you found it useful.
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Stew, AICP
Inventor Professional 2013, Autodesk Simulation Multiphysics 2013
Windows 7 x64 Core i7 32GB Ram FX2000
Message 7 of 29
jletcher
in reply to: Inv_kaos

inv_kaos said:

 

There are a couple of tutorials on mcadForums regarding these VBA functions but you will have to request the old link to be fixed. Regardless you can do most of this much easier now with iLogic.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

Not doing VB or VBA, I am doing ilogic but there are few or no samples of ilogic therre is no section telling you how to get this or this does that for ilogic. I was told most of the API samples are the same as ilogic you just have to change a few things.

 

So that is why I was looking at the API or programming help.

 

Thanks for the pics and you proved my point in order to get Inventor bugs fixed you must upgrade. This I feel is wrong and not fair to those that cannot afford subscription or a new seat every year as the fix for the bugs.

Message 8 of 29
Inv_kaos
in reply to: jletcher

My comments were based on the page that you posted - VBA. This particular help file is only applicable to VBA not iLogic. I agree there should be much more documentation on iLogic. It almost seems like it has been deliberately held back but I think, more likely, it has just fallen through the cracks. There is still significant differences, particularly for new users, between VB.net, VBA and iLogic, that I think could be documented.

 

Perhaps Curtis could include a section in Mastering Autodesk Inventor just for iLogic or extend the series to include Mastering iLogic. I am sure spare time is rare but the demand has certainly increased from the early days of iLogic (where IMO documentation was better).

 

I think based on the software improvements over the time you have to wait between upgrades that it is more economical to be on subscription. What I disagree on is the initial cost of the software since you never actually own it - only rent it.

Please mark as "Accept as Solution" if it answers your question or "Kudos" if you found it useful.
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Stew, AICP
Inventor Professional 2013, Autodesk Simulation Multiphysics 2013
Windows 7 x64 Core i7 32GB Ram FX2000
Message 9 of 29
JohnK_TEDCF
in reply to: Inv_kaos

Hey guys! I wanted to let you know that my company offers a video tutorial course on iLogic. We actually have a free iLogic mini-course on our YouTube page if your interested. The mini-course will give you a good introduction to our full course, 'iLogic Made Simple'.

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/tedcfpublishing?feature=results_main

 

If you have any questions about our courses, feel free to ask!

 

John Koop
Software Engineer/ Inventor Specialist
TEDCF Publishing
www.trainingtutorial.com
Message 10 of 29
Inv_kaos
in reply to: JohnK_TEDCF


@JohnK_TEDCF wrote:

The mini-course will give you a good introduction to our full course, 'iLogic Made Simple'. 


Thanks but I think the problem is there really is nothing around that goes beyond what you can't work out on your own by trial and error and help files. The AU class on iLogic Made Simple is no different.

Please mark as "Accept as Solution" if it answers your question or "Kudos" if you found it useful.
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Stew, AICP
Inventor Professional 2013, Autodesk Simulation Multiphysics 2013
Windows 7 x64 Core i7 32GB Ram FX2000
Message 11 of 29
jletcher
in reply to: JohnK_TEDCF

Thats nice but not what I need I understand ilogic I just can't find codes that can be used in ilogic and a section that explains the code.

 

I write VB, VBA, C++, Java and a few others I will say I am not the best but I get buy with the help files and sample codes. But ilogic has none of this or very very little.

 

Also you are asking for me to pay for something that should have been included in the software.

 

Autodesk use to pride themself on the best help file and should have been included..

 

If you ask me they are not looking like they care about the end user but the stock holders finding ways to make a product cheaper and charge more no matter what the cost is. And that cost is our time our money not theirs.

 

I just don't know anymore its a shame....

 

 

Message 12 of 29
jletcher
in reply to: jletcher

Like right now I need to find a way to stack text in ilogic not sure if it can be done because there is nothing to read to find out so I post in the custom fourm and I will have to keep trying things till someone answers the question or forget about it and find a workaround.

 

Message 13 of 29
JohnK_TEDCF
in reply to: Inv_kaos

The AU class 'iLogic Made Simple' is just a small portion of what is in our course.  It goes well beyond what was shown in the class at AU.  The class was 45 minutes long and our course runs just over 4 hours.  Here is a link to what is covered in the course.

 

http://www.trainingtutorial.com/iLogic_Made_Simple2013_Lessons.htm

 

Stacking Text is actually one of the topics covered in the course.  You can use vbCrLf which is Carriage Return - Line Feed. 

John Koop
Software Engineer/ Inventor Specialist
TEDCF Publishing
www.trainingtutorial.com
Message 14 of 29
jletcher
in reply to: JohnK_TEDCF

Perfect just what I need because of that I may just do your class..

 

Many thanks.............

Message 15 of 29
jletcher
in reply to: JohnK_TEDCF

Ok went to find price could not I just want ilogic course email me with price and link...

Message 16 of 29
JohnK_TEDCF
in reply to: jletcher

Sent!

John Koop
Software Engineer/ Inventor Specialist
TEDCF Publishing
www.trainingtutorial.com
Message 17 of 29
Inv_kaos
in reply to: JohnK_TEDCF

Hi John,

 

It is longer but I still don't think it covers what I am after. How is this presented, in the class room or from discs? Will there be more of these to come?

 

Cheers

Please mark as "Accept as Solution" if it answers your question or "Kudos" if you found it useful.
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Stew, AICP
Inventor Professional 2013, Autodesk Simulation Multiphysics 2013
Windows 7 x64 Core i7 32GB Ram FX2000
Message 18 of 29
JohnK_TEDCF
in reply to: Inv_kaos

Our courses are presented as Video Tutorials.  You can purchase a DVD or you can download the courses directly from our site.  We also provide part and assembly files that go along with our courses, as well as specialized tools like our Phantom Route Guide.

 

Every year our courses are updated with new content depending on the changes in Inventor and/or input from our customers.  For example, this year we have added a lot of content covering the Materials and Appearance libraries and we added the course covering iLogic.

 

All of our courses are extremely in depth and cover a multitude of topics.  We pride ourselves on not just showing you the various tools, but how and why they should be used.

 

I might be able to answer your question better if I knew what you are looking for in iLogic.

John Koop
Software Engineer/ Inventor Specialist
TEDCF Publishing
www.trainingtutorial.com
Message 19 of 29
jdkriek
in reply to: jletcher

The courses from TEDCF are top notch and will give you a much better idea of what iLogic is capable of

 

- especially reguarding it's VB.NET roots.

Jonathan D. Kriek
MFG Solutions Engineer
KETIV Technologies, Inc.


Message 20 of 29
jletcher
in reply to: jdkriek

Your buddy John said it would not work for what I need. I understand I logic but what I can't find are the things that make ilogic go. The code and samples...

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