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Visibility Issue in Drawing Environment

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Message 1 of 26
mrattray
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Visibility Issue in Drawing Environment

I seem to have a few components in this here drawing that refuse to show themselves.

 

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These are two occurrences of a patterned sub-assembly. The one that's missing it's foot and gussets is the first occurrence. This view is set to use the models view rep and is set to associative. It shows up correctly in the model. I've tried playing with every setting I can think of (yes, including graphics compatibility mode and software graphics mode). I've tried restarting the computer, manually updating the view, setting the view's view rep to master, turning off associative, etc. I'm out of ideas. Can anyone else suggest something else to look at that I may have overlooked?

 

It may be worth mentioning that this is a large assembly (by my standards) and Inventor is dragging **** trying to work with it. Occurrences/Unique Files: 7967 / 119

 

Here's some system specs in case anyone wants to ask:

 

Inventor 2013 SP2
Windows 7 SP 1
Dell Precision T5600
Intel Xeon 3.3GHz x 4 Cores
32 GB RAM
AMD FirePro V5900 (2GB)
237 GB SSD

 

Mike (not Matt) Rattray

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Message 2 of 26
tsreagan
in reply to: mrattray

Under the display options for the drawing view,  did you play with the section all parts, and Cut Inheritance options?

 

 

Expand the tree and check the status of the pattern object or missing part from there.

 

 

T.S.

 

 

Message 3 of 26
mrattray
in reply to: tsreagan

Thanks for the reply. This is my view settings:

 

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I should also mention that these three parts are missing from all four views of the main assembly, but show up fine in the layout for the sub-assembly.

 

This is the options I have available for the components in question:

 

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Mike (not Matt) Rattray

Message 4 of 26
tsreagan
in reply to: mrattray

In the last screen shot, the entry you have expanded is the first instance of the pattern, which is the one you say is visible.

 

expand the other elements in the pattern.  the missing part should be grey if it is somehow off.

 

Try the section participation as well, if they are not greyed out when you reveal them.

if no luck try to change the section standard parts to ALL.

 

T.S.

Message 5 of 26
mrattray
in reply to: tsreagan

The first element is the one missing parts, the other 4 elements are correct.
Changing Section Participation does nothing. (As I would expect, since there are no sections on the sheet.)
Mike (not Matt) Rattray

Message 6 of 26
tsreagan
in reply to: mrattray

Hmmm.  Though it was a section.

 

This makes it harder.  Let me think on it a moment.

 

 

T.S.

Message 7 of 26
tsreagan
in reply to: tsreagan

Notice you are using custom level of detail,  something there maybe.

 

it is strange that you would have the parts visible in the assembly view but not in the associated drawing view.

 

try unassociating it and manually making the pattern, the elements, and the individual part under the element, visible on the right click menu.

 

T.S.

Message 8 of 26
Ray_Feiler
in reply to: mrattray

Have you tried increasing the margin under model state?


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Message 9 of 26
mrattray
in reply to: tsreagan

Changing to Master LOD is no help.
Indeed.
Visibility is checked when I do this.
Mike (not Matt) Rattray

Message 10 of 26
mrattray
in reply to: Ray_Feiler

Yes, I bumped it from 5 to 20 and it's no help. The parts aren't marked as reference, either.
Mike (not Matt) Rattray

Message 11 of 26
tsreagan
in reply to: Ray_Feiler

I know some things loose visibility if they fall out of the margin,  usually happens on refrenced parts,  didn't know it could happen with a pattern.

 

Worth checkin.

 

 

 

Save the assembly as a copy,  and remove all but the pattern.


post the assembly, part, and drawing,  we can figure it from there.

 

T.S.

Message 12 of 26
Ray_Feiler
in reply to: mrattray

Try turning on interference edges.


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Message 13 of 26
mrattray
in reply to: Ray_Feiler

No help.
Mike (not Matt) Rattray

Message 14 of 26
Ray_Feiler
in reply to: mrattray

Bummer Smiley Sad


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Message 15 of 26
tsreagan
in reply to: mrattray

Hmmm...   The pattern has a visibility seperate from each element,  and parts have their own.

 

did yo check all three?  well two anyway.  as we know the root pattern object is visible.

 

 

 

If the assembly is too big to make a copy or if you think the size of the project may be the culprit,   demote the pattern temporarally and try it by itself in its own assembly.

 

 

T.S.

Message 16 of 26
mrattray
in reply to: Ray_Feiler

I was really hoping for one of those "Just wait until the wind is blowing out of the East then stand on your head for 30 seconds singing Kumbaya..."
Mike (not Matt) Rattray

Message 17 of 26
Ray_Feiler
in reply to: mrattray

Wait, one last thing to try. Make that view shaded just to see if the part will show.


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Message 18 of 26
mrattray
in reply to: tsreagan

When you're in the drawing environment only components have visibility settings. Patterns and pattern elements do not. (Yes, I checked anyways)
Mike (not Matt) Rattray

Message 19 of 26
mrattray
in reply to: Ray_Feiler

They don't show up in shaded either.
Mike (not Matt) Rattray

Message 20 of 26
mrattray
in reply to: tsreagan

The pattern is of one lone sub-assembly. I have the sub-assembly detailed on another sheet and it shows up fine there.
Mike (not Matt) Rattray

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