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Message 11 of 44 (364 Views)

Re: Unresolved link to Content Content Center files after file cache move

11-25-2011 06:19 AM in reply to: alessandro.gasso

Hi Alessandro,

 

Thanks again for this detailed help.  I will review the video.

 

Sorry if my question was not clear.  I wondered if there is a difference in Inventor recognising the files if we Copy (Copy and Paste) the entire folder to the new location compared to if we move (Cut and Paste) the files.  I would not think it makes a difference but maybe it does?

 

Cheers,

Guy

 

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Message 12 of 44 (363 Views)

Re: Unresolved link to Content Content Center files after file cache move

11-25-2011 06:22 AM in reply to: guyh

Hi Guy.

 

No, it doesn’t make any difference.

 

In my video I copy and paste the folder, but if I do a cut and paste, there is no difference.

 

Kind regards,

Alessandro



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Message 13 of 44 (353 Views)

Re: Unresolved link to Content Content Center files after file cache move

11-26-2011 02:41 AM in reply to: alessandro.gasso

Hi Alessandro,

 

I have tried all options and I can not find a way for Inventor to automatically resolve the links.  I have even used a USB drive with a direct copy of the P: drive CC files and when I open the assemblies Inventor defaults to the old P: drive even though the project file does not use this location at all.  Is there something stored within the assembly file which references the original location?  I didn't think there was but maybe I am wrong.

 

I am at a loss how to proceed.  I have decided to keep the L: drive as the CC file location for now and I will add the P: drive to the workgroup search path so the assemblies will resolve at least until the server is switched off then I will have to copy the files over to L: and resolve each assembly manually...... :smileysad:

 

Thanks,

Guy

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Message 14 of 44 (343 Views)

Re: Unresolved link to Content Content Center files after file cache move

11-28-2011 01:20 AM in reply to: guyh

Hi Guy,

 

Please, make this last attempt.

 

  • In the project file, set the CC File folder path to the original "P:\CAD_POOLS\INV_CC"
  • Open the assembly and check you don’t get the Resolve Link for the CC parts.
  • After that, create an empty folder in the location where you want to move the CC Parts (i.e.: "L:\INV_CC_2011").
  • Edit the project and change the CC File folder path from "P:\CAD_POOLS\INV_CC" to "L:\INV_CC_2011".
  • Open a new assembly and insert a standard part from the CC using the English language.
  • Close and do not save the assembly.
  • In Windows Explorer, browse to the folder L:\INV_CC_2011.
  • Under this folder, that was empty before, you should see now: “L:\INV_CC_2011\en-US\<name of the family>\<file name>.
  • If this is the case, browse under the folder P:\CAD_POOLS\INV_CC, copy or cut the folders en-US, fr-FR, and others if you have used other languages as well for inserting the standard parts, and past them at the same level of the en-US folder under L:\INV_CC_2011, accepting to override the existing folders and files.

I’ve attached a video where you can see the details of the steps above.

 

  • After that, open again your main assembly.
  • If you still get the resolve link, that it would be really weird, please, try my previous suggestion.
  • That is, edit the project, edit the CC Folder path, pointing to an empty folder, and add the path "L:\INV_CC_2011" to the Workgroup Search Paths.
  • Then, open the main assembly again.
  • If finally you can open it without Resolving Link dialog, edit the project once again, removing the path from Workgroup Search Paths and setting it for the CC File folder path.

I hope it helps.

 

Kind regards,

Alessandro



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Message 15 of 44 (339 Views)

Re: Unresolved link to Content Content Center files after file cache move

11-28-2011 03:07 AM in reply to: alessandro.gasso

 

Hi Alessando,

 

I did as you suggested.  My results.

 

  • In the project file, set the CC File folder path to the original "P:\CAD_POOLS\INV_CC"
  • Open the assembly and check you don’t get the Resolve Link for the CC parts. -   Confirmed working
  • After that, create an empty folder in the location where you want to move the CC Parts (i.e.: "L:\INV_CC_2011"). 
  • Edit the project and change the CC File folder path from "P:\CAD_POOLS\INV_CC" to "L:\INV_CC_2011".
  • Open a new assembly and insert a standard part from the CC using the English language.
  • Close and do not save the assembly.
  • In Windows Explorer, browse to the folder L:\INV_CC_2011.
  • Under this folder, that was empty before, you should see now: “L:\INV_CC_2011\en-US\<name of the family>\<file name>. - Confirmed file created
  • If this is the case, browse under the folder P:\CAD_POOLS\INV_CC, copy or cut the folders en-US, fr-FR, and others if you have used other languages as well for inserting the standard parts, and past them at the same level of the en-US folder under L:\INV_CC_2011, accepting to override the existing folders and files.

I’ve attached a video where you can see the details of the steps above.

 

  • After that, open again your main assembly.
  • If you still get the resolve link, that it would be really weird, please, try my previous suggestion. - Failed, Resolve link box
  • That is, edit the project, edit the CC Folder path, pointing to an empty folder, and add the path "L:\INV_CC_2011" to the Workgroup Search Paths.
  • Then, open the main assembly again.  - Able to resolve but given the option to selct between the FR and EN CC part.
  • If finally you can open it without Resolving Link dialog, edit the project once again, removing the path from Workgroup Search Paths and setting it for the CC File folder path. - Tested, failed.  Resolve link opens pointing to P: drive (see attached)

Thanks again for the help.

 

Guy

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Message 16 of 44 (334 Views)

Re: Unresolved link to Content Content Center files after file cache move

11-28-2011 03:33 AM in reply to: guyh

Hi Alessandro,

 

I have had a thought regarding this issue.  We had to migrate all our files from 2008 version to 2011.  These files were extracted from a PLM system via a batch process which renamed all files with a unique file name.  The files were migrated using task manager with 'Skip files with unresolved references' unselected.

 

I logged the migrations and all completed successfully.  The files were reintegrated to the PLM with the original file names applied.  I tested the assemblies from the PLM and all opened perfectly.

 

I do not think this should have an effect but maybe it provides you with some more information.

 

Thanks,

Guy

 

EDIT:  With the new configuration in the Project file.  If I create a new assembly making sure to select a CC part which exisits in the files and save it then reopen the assembly opens perfectly.

 

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Message 17 of 44 (330 Views)

Re: Unresolved link to Content Content Center files after file cache move

11-28-2011 05:21 AM in reply to: guyh

Hi Guy,

 

Thanks for the update.

 

Unfortunately I cannot tell you for sure if the PLM and the process you have described can play any role in this problem.

The only thing I can tell you is that this is a very unusual behavior I cannot reproduce, as you could see from the videos I’ve sent you, which is why, I’ve provided you just useless suggestion so far.

Sorry for that.

 

By the way, if the the CC files where created in R2008, please, edit the project file and set the CC File folder path to the original "P:\CAD_POOLS\INV_CC".

 

Open the assembly and check you don’t get the Resolve Link for the CC parts.

 

Close Inventor, start Task Scheduler and select from the Create Task drop down menu, Refresh Standard Components.

Select the project and check that all the options are selected.

 

Refresh.png

 

After completing the Refresh and if the log file confirms you that the procedure was successful, restart Inventor and try to open the assembly again.

 

If there is no problem in doing it, please try again the procedure I’ve suggested before.

 

If you get the Resolve Link dialog again replacing the CC File folder path, but you can open the assembly without the Resolve Link, adding the path to the Workgroup Search Paths even getting the option to select between the FR and EN CC part (as I wrote before, no solution for this), please, make sure you make a Rebuild all and then save the assembly, before editing the project again for removing the path from Workgroup Search Paths and setting it for the CC File folder.

 

If, after that you still get the Resolve Link dialog, is it possible for you removing the duplicate files under the FR folder, for instance, and try again the procedure?

 

If not or if the problem persists, please, create a new project files (ipj) with the same paths for the workspace and CC File folder (the original one "P:\CAD_POOLS\INV_CC").

 

Open the main assembly and check if you can resolve all the links.

 

If yes, please try to apply the procedure again using the new project.

 

I hope it helps.

 

Kind regards,

Alessandro



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Message 18 of 44 (325 Views)

Re: Unresolved link to Content Content Center files after file cache move

11-28-2011 06:48 AM in reply to: alessandro.gasso

Hi Alessandro,

 

I ran the task in Task Scheduler as you described (CC Path in Project to P:smileyhappy: and then after changed the CC path to L:, I was then able to open the assembly with no resolve link required.  It was automatic again!  What does this process in the Task Scheduler do?

 

I opened the assembly from my local drive which is the workspace defined in my project.  I then deleted the local file cache and tried to open the assembly from the PLM system.  I had the same issue with the resolve link.

 

If I can understand better the process of the Task Scheduler then maybe I can apply this to our PLM file store?

 

Thanks for your time on this.  I feel I am moving towards a solution.

 

Cheers,

Guy

 

 

 

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Message 19 of 44 (320 Views)

Re: Unresolved link to Content Content Center files after file cache move

11-28-2011 07:41 AM in reply to: guyh

Hi Guy,

 

I’m happy we have done some progress.

 

Let’s assume you open an assembly that contains Standards Parts you have inserted in previous versions of Inventor.

 

If you go to menu Manage > Content Center > Refresh, Inventor will update the Content Center Files to the latest version, moving the files from previous version in the OldVersion subfolders of each family.

 

The procedure you have done with Task Scheduler applies this process automatically for all the assemblies of the project, refreshing all the Standard Parts inserted in them.

 

I’ve asked you for doing this, because I thought the fact that opening the assembly you get the Resolve Link because Inventor search for the Standard Parts in the old location, could depend from the old version of the files, even if this remains an unusual behavior.

 

I hope I’ve clarified the Task Scheduler process suggested.

 

What I’m missing now is why this has solved the problem, even without applying the long procedure I’ve suggested this morning, if I’ve understood this correctly, and what you have done exactly for getting back the problem.

 

Reading through the post it seems you have problem opening the assembly just from the PLM system now.

 

Can it be that the CC Files on the PLM are still out of date?

 

Can the problem be related to the fact that this PLM system renames the files performing some task?

 

Thanks and regards,

Alessandro



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Message 20 of 44 (316 Views)

Re: Unresolved link to Content Content Center files after file cache move

11-28-2011 08:14 AM in reply to: alessandro.gasso

Thanks Alessandro,

 

Based on this explanation it seems that the only real way to solve this problem is to 'check out' all the files in the PLM system which references to the CC files, run the Task Scheduler and then reintegrate them?

 

The way we handle the CC files in the PLM is there is one copy of the CC part stored.  When a CC part is placed in an assembly which exists in the PLM it is detected and we do not store multiple copies of the same item.  They are referenced to the CAD_POOLS folder.

 

I migrated all the files in the PLM (including the CC files) and also the CC file cache.

 

The files in the PLM are named on save with a DOC*********** reference but CC files are not, they maintain their standard names.

 

Cheers,

Guy

 

EDIT: I have just checked a part from the CC file cache with the save command.  I received the migration prompt on the L: drive.  This means the files I migrated have not been used (Somebody else is in control of this on our networks).  I need to replace these files with the migrated files but could this have an impact?  Is a simple migration the best process or would you advise I run the process as before?

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