Since “The Cloud” is a relatively new concept in sharing content, and little is known at this end about it, I would like to get some response from any who are considering using it, as provided through Autodesk.
When I first heard about Autodesk’s adopting this the first thing that came to mind (before I did any reading about what it was all about) was the possibility that it might be a way to provide content in Inventor type files from vendors and manufacturers. That was before I learned more about it. This, in my opinion, would be valuable to any who would like to incorporate products in their design from outside vendors/manufacturers, and would be a marked improvement from things like Part Spec, which were available in the distant past.
But now it seems that what it is all about is sharing design progress across an organization(s) in a collaborative design process. This has security concerns over the risk that unauthorized sources might get access to intellectual property. So the question is, why has it seemed more important to put forward the collaborative aspect of design projects, with its potential security risks, rather than providing content from vendors and manufacturers for potential use in a project.
As far as I know, at this point, there is no effort on the part of Autodesk to incorporate in a “CLOUD” environment vendor/manufacturer products compatible with Inventor designs. THIS SEEMS COMPLETELY BACKWARDS, and is not in the best interests of Inventor licensees that are merely looking for a better and faster way to incorporate the products of others they might wish to buy and use in their designs. As such I think licensees should openly object to the introduction of this concept before it becomes part of the software environment that users must accept if they want to continue to use Inventor software. But I am more than willing to listen to reasons why our company has misunderstood “cloud” offerings from Autodesk.
A short search for info on “the CLOUD” was taken, but it seems most topics have to do with Revision Clouds, so maybe most have already pretty much come to the same conclusion (above).
As far as the possibilites... they are endless. It can be of great value or it could be worthless. It all depends on where this is going and the end user.
From what I have heard and seen, one of the features of the cloud is that it would take away the computing requirements from the end user. What I mean is that the end user could do a minimal installation and then run inventor over the internet. The server would be handling all the computations and actually running the software. This would eliiminate the end user from needing a supercomputer to run the software. How far they take this, and where it leads is anyones guess. Autodesk may not even know right now (but my guess is they already have a long term stratigic plan).
Sounds great ... right? But, instead of you purchasing a license to run the software (like you do now). You will be buying "cloud units". If you are on subscription, you already have some "free" Clound units to use. The more you use the software, the more cloud units you will need. Certian things will cost more (like FEA or optimization). So it will be similar to the minutes you buy for your cell phone.
For small companies that dont want to make a large investment, this might sound great. They can use the software. (But really, how proficient can you be in a few hours in Inventor?) But for larger players, it seems like it just another way to bring revenue into Autodesk. Autodesk is in the buisness to make money, you cant blame them for that. But if it becomes too much of a burden on the companies that use them, then they will turn and leave them.
I dont like it at all because it will no longer just be a matter of double-clicking an icon on your desktop to run the software. You will have to be connected to the internet (not always available). Will need a good connection speed (not always available). Have available cloud units. The autodesk server must be running..... I could keep going, but you see the picture.
Don't like it don't use it. And if you think I'm going to the cloud to do my work I guess I will never update again. Internet goes down what do I do who will pay for my down time Autodesk HA. I'm here in florida and my internet goes out daily 2 to 4 times a day.
What about hackers. You have your design in the cloud now China has is.
I remember eveyone talking about big brother in my day but now does not seem to be a concern.
Facebook = Big Brother
Cloud = Big Brother
GPS = Big Brother
And more I could go on.
Cloud doesn't have to mean the public cloud - it could mean your own internal server system.
Inventor 2013 is Citrix compatible, so you can already run it 'via the cloud' by installing it on your server and running it from your desktop/laptop/iPad. This is a cloud soloution, but you still own the software, you still have it installed on your system and your IP never leaves your network.
Other Autodesk cloud soloutions include cloud documents (Autodesk's version of dropbox) and options to send some of your information out to the Autodesk servers for rendering or analysis.
There has been no announcement yet to say that Autodesk will no longer be supporting desktop installations or that you will only be able to use your software over the web.
I'm looking on this with interest, and it's not clear to me that any of the CAD vendors have really got their technology and thier marketing messages up to speed with each other. I am sceptical but optomistic. I will keep watching with interest.
Isn't the "Cloud" just another new fangled way of stating "file server" storage, weather it be on your'e department , company or some fare off server farm? Just a new marketing gimick. Explain where or how I am wrong if so.
My original thought on the value of "The Cloud" was as follows: "...When I first heard about Autodesk’s adopting this the first thing that came to mind (before I did any reading about what it was all about) was the possibility that it might be a way to provide content in Inventor type files from vendors and manufacturers. ..."
I was hoping someone would have some information on whether this might be part of the direction this concept might take. It would save many hours of searching for items to include in a project.
Since I have not gotten any feedback on that aspect of Cloud usage I have serious doubts about the overall benefit, and a number of risks to the user. You can follow that last thought to whatever extent you wish in current times, chief among which is loss to others of intellectual property for bogus and other illicit reasons.
To me the benefits of the cloud are more for Autodesk than they are for the end user. The issue is anybody could set up their own "cloud" right now. All it would be is a remote desktop connection and windows 7 makes it fairly simple to set up. That way you would access all your files and applications on one machine from any other machine as long as your connected to the internet. I don't see what the point of giving all that control over to Autodesk would be. The benefit to Autodesk would be that they can continually charge you to use their software. For instance we've paid for Inventor 2010 and haven't upgraded since. We simply haven't needed to. With the cloud you could never have anything paid off. Right now if business gets hard no one can take my software away, we can work through it. If on the other hand we only operated on the cloud and couldn't pay the subscription fee we couldn't have our software to operate our business. Then we'd just be out of business. I just don't see the point? It's like paying Autodesk to take away my freedom. If anyone can point out some benefits to the user i'd like to hear them.
Paul, I'm with you on this point. Sceptical but Optimistic.
Any Administrator worth half a **** would not allow sensitive documents to be stored on any internet based system, that's just common sense in my opinion.
For large companies with 20 or more engineers in tow can benefit from 'cloud' type solutions but smaller companies would not see the benefits, only increased costs IMO.
The jury is still out .... lol
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