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Still crashing IV 6 frequently.

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Message 1 of 21
Anonymous
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‎06-05-2003 01:10 AM
‎06-05-2003 01:10 AM

Still crashing IV 6 frequently.

I have been reading/searching the IV6 Group to find solutions. We added memory (768MB), did a clean reinstall of XP, updated IV6, MDT6 and Office XP to most recent SP and updates. Changed memory settings to "System chache".
Installed NVIDIA Quadro4 550 XGL with Driver .40.72.
Disabled NAV and no other software is installed or running in background. Did a rebuild all on each assembly. All work is done in Semi-Isolated Projects.
IV6 is still crashing, when constraining large sub assemblies to each other (250-500 each) and frequently during saving.
No error messages, just shuts down! Anybody have any idea what else we can try?!?!?! Any suggestions are greatly appreciated! Thanks, Peter (peterd@bigskyeng.com)
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Message 2 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎06-05-2003 03:00 AM
‎06-05-2003 03:00 AM

"We added memory"



Is your new memory the exact same as your old memory. Mismatching memory types and sometimes even brands can cause errors.



Is it crashing only on this one assy? How does it behave when you're not working on this assy?



The best way to track a problem like this is to format the HD, remove any unnecessary hardware from the computer, do a clean reinstall of the OS, update the OS and hardware, install IV (and IV only). Then start using IV for a day and see what happens. If it still crashes then you know it's more hardware/OS related as compared to any other program conflict. If IV does run well then you can slowly start adding hardware and software. If IV starts crashing again then you'll have a better idea as to what is causing the problem.



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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎06-05-2003 03:35 AM
‎06-05-2003 03:35 AM


> The best way to track a problem like this is to format the HD, remove any
unnecessary hardware from the computer, do a clean reinstall of the OS,
update the OS and hardware, install IV (and IV only).


don't forget to install excell

--
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎06-05-2003 04:00 AM
‎06-05-2003 04:00 AM

If I remember right you CAN run IV without Excel but lose the functionality of any part of IV that uses Excel. But yes, I would suggest installing Excel as well before running IV for a day. Office wouldn't be a problematic software for IV to run with (of course).



Thanks Tracey.



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Message 5 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎06-05-2003 04:37 AM
‎06-05-2003 04:37 AM

Three 256MB modules. Purchased thru Dell to match existing module type and
brand.

This is happening on two different PC's, working on two different
Assemblies/Projects.
Almost identical PC Hardware (except 1x 1.7GHZ; 1x 2.0GHZ), one is a clean
slate OS,
the other has a variety of Software installed. Both have same problem.

Been thru the Format and reinstalling twice. Have never tried it with only
IV installed.
Will have to do this as last resort. We are adding more memory to increase
RAM and
swapping video card from another PC without problems.

Can anyone recommend particular update/SP's for XP to avoid or must haves?!

Thanks a bunch.

Peter (peterd@bigskyeng.com)

"MechMan" wrote in message news:f16acc9.0@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
"We added memory"


Is your new memory the exact same as your old memory. Mismatching memory
types and sometimes even brands can cause errors.


Is it crashing only on this one assy? How does it behave when you're not
working on this assy?


The best way to track a problem like this is to format the HD, remove any
unnecessary hardware from the computer, do a clean reinstall of the OS,
update the OS and hardware, install IV (and IV only). Then start using IV
for a day and see what happens. If it still crashes then you know it's more
hardware/OS related as compared to any other program conflict. If IV does
run well then you can slowly start adding hardware and software. If IV
starts crashing again then you'll have a better idea as to what is causing
the problem.


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Message 6 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎06-05-2003 04:37 AM
‎06-05-2003 04:37 AM

Are you having frequent crashes with other IV files?



I guess RAM shouldn't be your problem then unless you just happen to have received a bad stick.



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Message 7 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎06-05-2003 05:27 AM
‎06-05-2003 05:27 AM

One of my guys was crashing 4 to 6 times a day when
constraining.  We de-selected the preview option in the constraint dialogue
box and his problems went away.

 

Dave


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
I
have been reading/searching the IV6 Group to find solutions. We added memory
(768MB), did a clean reinstall of XP, updated IV6, MDT6 and Office XP to most
recent SP and updates. Changed memory settings to "System chache".

Installed NVIDIA Quadro4 550 XGL with Driver .40.72.
Disabled NAV and
no other software is installed or running in background. Did a rebuild all on
each assembly. All work is done in Semi-Isolated Projects.
IV6 is still
crashing, when constraining large sub assemblies to each other (250-500 each)
and frequently during saving.
No error messages, just shuts down! Anybody
have any idea what else we can try?!?!?! Any suggestions are greatly
appreciated! Thanks, Peter (peterd@bigskyeng.com)
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Message 8 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎06-05-2003 05:56 AM
‎06-05-2003 05:56 AM

You do have both service packs for IV6 installed
don't you?


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
I
have been reading/searching the IV6 Group to find solutions. We added memory
(768MB), did a clean reinstall of XP, updated IV6, MDT6 and Office XP to most
recent SP and updates. Changed memory settings to "System chache".

Installed NVIDIA Quadro4 550 XGL with Driver .40.72.
Disabled NAV and
no other software is installed or running in background. Did a rebuild all on
each assembly. All work is done in Semi-Isolated Projects.
IV6 is still
crashing, when constraining large sub assemblies to each other (250-500 each)
and frequently during saving.
No error messages, just shuts down! Anybody
have any idea what else we can try?!?!?! Any suggestions are greatly
appreciated! Thanks, Peter (peterd@bigskyeng.com)
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Message 9 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎06-05-2003 06:44 AM
‎06-05-2003 06:44 AM

Already doing that. No change in IV behavior. Still
crashing.

 

Thanks anyway. Keep them coming. I'm still hoping
for that one "MAGIC" button or option to

click and everything is working the way it is
supposed to.

 


 


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

One of my guys was crashing 4 to 6 times a day
when constraining.  We de-selected the preview option in the constraint
dialogue box and his problems went away.

 

Dave


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
I
have been reading/searching the IV6 Group to find solutions. We added memory
(768MB), did a clean reinstall of XP, updated IV6, MDT6 and Office XP to
most recent SP and updates. Changed memory settings to "System chache".

Installed NVIDIA Quadro4 550 XGL with Driver .40.72.
Disabled NAV
and no other software is installed or running in background. Did a rebuild
all on each assembly. All work is done in Semi-Isolated Projects.
IV6 is
still crashing, when constraining large sub assemblies to each other
(250-500 each) and frequently during saving.
No error messages, just
shuts down! Anybody have any idea what else we can try?!?!?! Any suggestions
are greatly appreciated! Thanks, Peter
(peterd@bigskyeng.com)
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Message 10 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎06-05-2003 07:41 AM
‎06-05-2003 07:41 AM

Try nvidia driver 41.03 or 41.09. Might make the diff. Seems like there
have been more problems with 40.72 than these. Try 41.09 first as it is
more optimized for winxp.
www.guru3d.com/detonator
darvin

"Peter S. Dettmer" wrote in message
news:0E85B93936169C6754407371967AC4D1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Already doing that. No change in IV behavior. Still crashing.
>
> Thanks anyway. Keep them coming. I'm still hoping for that one "MAGIC"
button or option to
> click and everything is working the way it is supposed to.
>
> Peter (peterd@bigskyeng.com)
>
> "David Radlin" wrote in message
news:3480EBD556E4497ABB7556CF1C9A30D6@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> One of my guys was crashing 4 to 6 times a day when constraining.
We de-selected the preview option in the constraint dialogue box and his
problems went away.
>
> Dave
> "bigsky4" wrote in message
news:f16acc9.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I have been reading/searching the IV6 Group to find solutions. We
added memory (768MB), did a clean reinstall of XP, updated IV6, MDT6 and
Office XP to most recent SP and updates. Changed memory settings to
"System chache".
> Installed NVIDIA Quadro4 550 XGL with Driver .40.72.
> Disabled NAV and no other software is installed or running in
background. Did a rebuild all on each assembly. All work is done in
Semi-Isolated Projects.
> IV6 is still crashing, when constraining large sub assemblies to
each other (250-500 each) and frequently during saving.
> No error messages, just shuts down! Anybody have any idea what
else we can try?!?!?! Any suggestions are greatly appreciated! Thanks,
Peter (peterd@bigskyeng.com)
>
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Message 11 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎06-05-2003 03:36 PM
‎06-05-2003 03:36 PM

Did you change your system swapfile settings fixed
to say  3072 Mb?


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
I
have been reading/searching the IV6 Group to find solutions. We added memory
(768MB), did a clean reinstall of XP, updated IV6, MDT6 and Office XP to most
recent SP and updates. Changed memory settings to "System chache".

Installed NVIDIA Quadro4 550 XGL with Driver .40.72.
Disabled NAV and
no other software is installed or running in background. Did a rebuild all on
each assembly. All work is done in Semi-Isolated Projects.
IV6 is still
crashing, when constraining large sub assemblies to each other (250-500 each)
and frequently during saving.
No error messages, just shuts down! Anybody
have any idea what else we can try?!?!?! Any suggestions are greatly
appreciated! Thanks, Peter (peterd@bigskyeng.com)
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Message 12 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎06-06-2003 02:09 AM
‎06-06-2003 02:09 AM

Yes, both SP's installed.

 

Thanks. Peter


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

You do have both service packs for IV6 installed
don't you?


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
I
have been reading/searching the IV6 Group to find solutions. We added memory
(768MB), did a clean reinstall of XP, updated IV6, MDT6 and Office XP to
most recent SP and updates. Changed memory settings to "System chache".

Installed NVIDIA Quadro4 550 XGL with Driver .40.72.
Disabled NAV
and no other software is installed or running in background. Did a rebuild
all on each assembly. All work is done in Semi-Isolated Projects.
IV6 is
still crashing, when constraining large sub assemblies to each other
(250-500 each) and frequently during saving.
No error messages, just
shuts down! Anybody have any idea what else we can try?!?!?! Any suggestions
are greatly appreciated! Thanks, Peter
(peterd@bigskyeng.com)
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Message 13 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎06-06-2003 02:11 AM
‎06-06-2003 02:11 AM

Just updated to 42.01. Latest and greatest avail. according to ADesk
website.

Let's see what this does.

Thanks. Peter

"darvinv" wrote in message
news:49522C3376E7123AF3B401EEB84E2200@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Try nvidia driver 41.03 or 41.09. Might make the diff. Seems like there
> have been more problems with 40.72 than these. Try 41.09 first as it is
> more optimized for winxp.
> www.guru3d.com/detonator
> darvin
>
> "Peter S. Dettmer" wrote in message
> news:0E85B93936169C6754407371967AC4D1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Already doing that. No change in IV behavior. Still crashing.
> >
> > Thanks anyway. Keep them coming. I'm still hoping for that one "MAGIC"
> button or option to
> > click and everything is working the way it is supposed to.
> >
> > Peter (peterd@bigskyeng.com)
> >
> > "David Radlin" wrote in message
> news:3480EBD556E4497ABB7556CF1C9A30D6@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > One of my guys was crashing 4 to 6 times a day when constraining.
> We de-selected the preview option in the constraint dialogue box and his
> problems went away.
> >
> > Dave
> > "bigsky4" wrote in message
> news:f16acc9.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I have been reading/searching the IV6 Group to find solutions. We
> added memory (768MB), did a clean reinstall of XP, updated IV6, MDT6 and
> Office XP to most recent SP and updates. Changed memory settings to
> "System chache".
> > Installed NVIDIA Quadro4 550 XGL with Driver .40.72.
> > Disabled NAV and no other software is installed or running in
> background. Did a rebuild all on each assembly. All work is done in
> Semi-Isolated Projects.
> > IV6 is still crashing, when constraining large sub assemblies to
> each other (250-500 each) and frequently during saving.
> > No error messages, just shuts down! Anybody have any idea what
> else we can try?!?!?! Any suggestions are greatly appreciated! Thanks,
> Peter (peterd@bigskyeng.com)
> >
>
>
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Message 14 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎06-06-2003 02:11 AM
‎06-06-2003 02:11 AM

There is a new one. 4345. Not yet certified, but works great. Only thing is, you
should change the Application Options to SolidWorks .

--
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Automation Designer
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎06-06-2003 02:14 AM
‎06-06-2003 02:14 AM

Yes. Swap (Paging) file is fixed to max.
allowed.

 

Thanks. Peter


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

Did you change your system swapfile settings
fixed to say  3072 Mb?


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
I
have been reading/searching the IV6 Group to find solutions. We added memory
(768MB), did a clean reinstall of XP, updated IV6, MDT6 and Office XP to
most recent SP and updates. Changed memory settings to "System chache".

Installed NVIDIA Quadro4 550 XGL with Driver .40.72.
Disabled NAV
and no other software is installed or running in background. Did a rebuild
all on each assembly. All work is done in Semi-Isolated Projects.
IV6 is
still crashing, when constraining large sub assemblies to each other
(250-500 each) and frequently during saving.
No error messages, just
shuts down! Anybody have any idea what else we can try?!?!?! Any suggestions
are greatly appreciated! Thanks, Peter
(peterd@bigskyeng.com)
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Message 16 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎06-06-2003 02:21 AM
‎06-06-2003 02:21 AM

SOLIDWORKS ???? Is that what you said? Couldn't hear you whispering!
He said SOLIDWORKS, doesn't that kind of talk get you kicked out of this
board?

I'll wait and see, if the 42.01 makes any difference first, before updating
to the latest.

Thanks. Peter

"Dave J" wrote in message
news:5135B08AC39AC5EC03FB967EDE8A0C15@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> There is a new one. 4345. Not yet certified, but works great. Only thing
is, you
> should change the Application Options to SolidWorks .
>
> --
> Dave Jacquemotte
> Automation Designer
>
>
>
>
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Message 17 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎06-06-2003 02:21 AM
‎06-06-2003 02:21 AM

LOL

--
Dave Jacquemotte
Automation Designer
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎06-06-2003 12:53 PM
‎06-06-2003 12:53 PM

"doesn't that kind of talk get you kicked out of this
board?"



Only if you talk favorably towards IT. You can bash IT all you want. Or at least until Anne says "that's enough". 😉

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Message 19 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎06-07-2003 10:02 AM
‎06-07-2003 10:02 AM

Actually, I was told it was "set to anything but Inventor" but Inventor
isn't one of the options anyway. Of late, I have been setting to
Unigraphics or SolidEdge. We are having problems with the 4072 driver
on XP with the /3GB patch installed so I have been playing with the
4201 driver which seems stable.

Peter S. Dettmer wrote:

>SOLIDWORKS ???? Is that what you said? Couldn't hear you whispering!
>He said SOLIDWORKS, doesn't that kind of talk get you kicked out of this
>board?
>
>I'll wait and see, if the 42.01 makes any difference first, before updating
>to the latest.
>
>Thanks. Peter
>
>"Dave J" wrote in message
>news:5135B08AC39AC5EC03FB967EDE8A0C15@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
>
>
>>There is a new one. 4345. Not yet certified, but works great. Only thing
>>
>>
>is, you
>
>
>>should change the Application Options to SolidWorks .
>>
>>--
>>Dave Jacquemotte
>>Automation Designer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎06-07-2003 10:08 AM
‎06-07-2003 10:08 AM

Silly question, can you try it on R7?

Peter S. Dettmer wrote:

> Yes. Swap (Paging) file is fixed to max. allowed.
>
> Thanks. Peter
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