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Dennis_Jeffrey
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Re: Possible Software Transition- HELP

05-20-2011 08:11 PM in reply to: IlliniDawn

Sorry,

 

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Mark_Flayler
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Re: Possible Software Transition- HELP

05-21-2011 10:20 AM in reply to: Dennis_Jeffrey

I think a lot of people here are missing some important questions to ask you.

 

Namely, when you say you rely heavily on configurations, does this mean that you are consitantly adding new configurations to your model with each new design?

 

How are you tracking revisions to individual configurations?  Are you simply adding another column that states which revision that row of the configuration is in?  This is where SW and ProE fail miserably when it comes to tracking revisions of indiviual confiuration revisions.

 

IF...you are constantly adding new configuration rows to existing configurations, what you really need is a configurator which you can probably do a lot of with the free Driveworks in SW or if you pay an additional 8,000K you can get the full DriveWorks which does about the same as the free iLogic that is in Inventor.  Which you will find does a fantastic job of creating configurators at no additional cost to the company other than the initial switch and modeling cost of that creation of the configurator.

 

There may be absolutely no need to transfer your files from SW if your workflow is fully described.

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Re: Possible Software Transition- HELP

05-21-2011 05:57 PM in reply to: Mark_Flayler

Sorry Mark,  I did not miss anything... Here's the OP's original concern:

 

"My concern is, if we change over to Inventor, how will these parts/assembly files transfer.  Will we be required to save each individual configuration as a separate part/ assembly and then re-link all the assemblies and drawings? "

 

The basic and correct answer is:  You can't transfer the existing configurations and 2D drawings.

 

I do agree that Inventor has simpler and more powerful options for many configurations moving forward, however you have not addressed the existing configurations.

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Re: Possible Software Transition- HELP

05-21-2011 07:35 PM in reply to: Dennis_Jeffrey

That is what I was getting at...How important are the original configurations?  That could change the whole dynamic here given the right response.

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Re: Possible Software Transition- HELP

05-21-2011 08:20 PM in reply to: Mark_Flayler

Understood. Not trying to step on toes here... :smileyhappy:

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IlliniDawn
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Re: Possible Software Transition- HELP

05-23-2011 06:11 AM in reply to: Mark_Flayler

That is what I was getting at...How important are the original configurations?  That could change the whole dynamic here given the right response.

 

Currently different configurations are seen/ used as different parts.  For example, one configuration may be the purchased length of an aluminum extrusion, and all the other configurations may be that same extrusion cut to the different lengths required for the different assemblies/products.  

 

We do not use configurations as a way to document revisions, therefore, the "original" configuration is as important every subsequent config.   

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Message 17 of 18 (182 Views)

Re: Possible Software Transition- HELP

05-23-2011 06:37 AM in reply to: Dennis_Jeffrey

From what is sounds like then, either you will have to redesign your configurations as iParts in Inventor with a Custom Parameter column or you can start using Frame Generator.  The biggest difference here will be that you will have a new file for every configuration member created as either a new part or a derived link to the iPart Factory.  This will make electronic data management easer given you have individual files to track.  If the majority of your configurations are structural steel (I know you used that as a simple example) then the transition won't be too bad.

 

What I would forsee is keeping your seat of SW around for older designs that need to still be updated using the original configurations, and new designs would use iParts or Frame Generator in Inventor.  Just because you switch from one CAD software to the other doesn't mean you need to do it overnight, but instead draw a line in the sand in product development for new designs.  In the end you will have a little bit of work setting up the way Inventor will do it, but there are some other factors here rather than just the up front work on the transition.  For instance...

 

Do you want AutoCAD, AutoCAD Mechanical, Showcase, 3DsMax Design, Sketchbook, and Alias Design for free?  WIth Inventor those are now part of the package depending on what Suite you get.  If you are paying for an AutoCAD seat right now as well for any of your work you are potentially paying subscription cost on both ACAD and SW instead of one price for both which is about the same as the SW cost.  If you are not on subscription for SW then you are not getting service packs for your product and are being left out of updates to the software even in the area of hotfixes.

 

I am sure what you are trying to do in Inventor as compared to SW is not that difficult to set up, but you should ask your reseller if they can show you the best way Inventor would do it and what advice they have with your business practices to help in the transition if you choose to move forward.

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stevec781
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Message 18 of 18 (162 Views)

Re: Possible Software Transition- HELP

05-23-2011 09:20 AM in reply to: IlliniDawn

IlliniDawn wrote:

 Will we be required to save each individual configuration as a separate part/ assembly and then re-link all the assemblies and drawings

 




Inventor wont open or convert your SW drawings,  and you will also lose your part feature history as well. 

 

Believe nothing, test everything (do you need symetry mates?)

 

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