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mccann25
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Re: Open Inventor 2013 .ipt in Inventor 2012

10-02-2012 10:31 AM in reply to: JohnK_TEDCF

I am from another state where the local community college throw the book at you, and has no lecture of any kind, and the teacher is not avalable when you have questions, cause he is playing solitaire in class, but you can ask other students, that community college however has more classes on CAD programs than here. This college that teaches the Inv and SW is the ONLY one that teaches SW here within 120 miles, I have no idea about Inv, the jobs are in SW, that I have seen, so I enrolled into the school where solidworks was taught. The rest of the schools in the area have no drafting, they basically major in giving you a BS degree with 10-17 classes not in your field so you can get a BS in something, just not your career field. The local community college, has absolutely nothing for drafting whatsoever, which I find quite odd. Universities are a few miles away and would probably require completing another degree yet, but of a longer duration. This college is the only solution.

I can tell you my inventor teacher had us draw all the parts of an assembly into one part file, and when I asked him about it, he answered my question with a question, which totally upset me. Needless to say anyone that followed his technique had to completely redraw everything. I have had 3 classes with my Soldiworks teacher and he already seems more knowledgeable, and also seems to be of a higher calibur teacher than the Inventor guy. The Inventor guy however has been using Inventor for years, but why he said to put all parts into the part file to be imported into an assembly file later, is beyond me. The only conjecture I can make, is that he's lacking in the assembly portion of Inventor, or he wanted to try a new twist that he'd never tried before. Which is exactly what we're learning this term in Inventor.

 

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mrattray
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Re: Open Inventor 2013 .ipt in Inventor 2012

10-02-2012 10:33 AM in reply to: mccann25

It's not possible that he was trying to teach you how to use a multi body solid? That's a very common and powerful modeling technique...

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Re: Open Inventor 2013 .ipt in Inventor 2012

10-02-2012 10:48 AM in reply to: mrattray

Mike Rattray, you're kind of out in left field aren't you, Clearances and Tolerances are pretty close to the same term, they both deal with the equalizing of space to ensure a proper fit, so pardon me if I used the wrong word. I never said I was an expert, if I were an expert would I have enrolled into another college. I have spent 2 years in school learning drafting after 2 years of drafting in high school eighteen years ago, and 5 years in the field. I came to this forum to find answers as well. So let me communicate with those that I've been communicating.

 

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10-02-2012 10:51 AM in reply to: mccann25

Clearance is the distance between two mating parts. Tolerance is the amount of deviation allowed during manufacturing.

How is that the same thing?

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Re: Open Inventor 2013 .ipt in Inventor 2012

10-02-2012 10:53 AM in reply to: mccann25

You may have already covered this, and if you did I apologize, but is there a specific reason to learning at your current college? I'm asking because there are multiple other options for training.  You could attend a class taught by Inventor Professionals or check out some online tutorial courses.

 

Now in all fairness, the company I work for provides training for both Inventor and SolidWorks, so that is why I am weighing in here.  But because of the frustration you are having, I highly recommend other avenues as far as your training goes.  There are some great options out there at a reasonable price.  If you would like information about my company, I can provide it.  I'm sure others here can provide alternate training options as well.

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Re: Open Inventor 2013 .ipt in Inventor 2012

10-02-2012 10:54 AM in reply to: mrattray

Nope he was teaching us our first assembly of six parts, not sure what a multi-body solid is. Nah he threw us an unintentional curveball that blew up in our faces and another 4 hours remodeling everything. He goofed he told us all that the next class, after we told him what happened. It could have been helped if he weren't so arrogant in the first place when I asked him about it.

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10-02-2012 10:58 AM in reply to: mrattray

Mike, I said PRETTY CLOSE TO THE SAME THING, I didn't say they were the same thing, then I compared and explained how they were CLOSE TO THE SAME THING. They both deal with the realtive amount of space to ensure a proper fit. My fingers just typed the wrong word, it's a technicality.

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10-02-2012 11:02 AM in reply to: mccann25

If i was you id go to the autodesk university website and watch some of the online classes from past AU courses. Some good stuff there.

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Re: Open Inventor 2013 .ipt in Inventor 2012

10-02-2012 11:06 AM in reply to: mccann25

More than likely he was trying to teach you multi-body solid and did not understand it himself and forgot to tell you about the button to make this work. And it is a very good tool if used right.

 

I would have to agree with some of the comments on here. If this teacher you have is not teaching I think I would be looking at getting my money back and finding other ways to learn. Even go as far as suing the school.....

 

You may be able to learn a lot more from you tube videos than your teacher it sounds like.


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Re: Open Inventor 2013 .ipt in Inventor 2012

10-02-2012 11:10 AM in reply to: JohnK_TEDCF

John this college is $210.00 per credit hour, and will help you get a job for life no matter where you live. I went back to school for Solidworks and being able to get a job for life no matter what state I live. The two colleges that I attended prior to this one, I was just a number upon leaving, I am trying to alleviate the process of locating employment. Inventor was just a requirement of the college. Since I have been laid off (Early 2010) I have seen one Inventor job open, but I've seen at least 75 Solidworks open positions, and the Inventor guy where I used to work was exstatic when we went to Soldiworks, he spoke of tools in Soldiworks that did not exist in Inventor. Solidworks is quite the time saver, and even doesn't require the multiple redrawing of adjacent views or sections. I had never thought of it before, but the teacher last night in soldiworks suggetsed becoming Solidworks certified. I think the solidworks guy at the college is going to be 3x the Inventor guy, I can tell just by the way he teaches the class. John, could you send me your contact information and pricing and I'll look it over. Thank You

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