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*Walt Jaquith
Message 11 of 30 (92 Views)

Re: No one else has lasted even a day

09-15-2009 01:47 PM in reply to: *Walt Jaquith
> wrote in message news:6254967@discussion.autodesk.com...
>So Walt, I take it you'll never be updating from Windows XP?
>
>The ribbon is a direct relation to Windows Vista or should I say Windows
>Office applications. Word, Excel, etc have all gone to >these ribbon menus.

I don't use Office like I do Inventor, meaning often enough and long enough
for interface and enforced workflow to have a significant impact on overall
productivity in those applications.

>Granted, it does some getting used to, but I actually kinda like it now. I
>don't have to jump all around from menu to menu like I did >in Classic
>view. Every command is basically right there.
>

My experience has been almost exactly the opposite. I'm constantly needing
to go to another tab for a command that used to be right there. Of course,
my Classic interface was highly personalized to match my
workflow...something that can't be done with the Ribbon interface. It just
boggles my mind that Autodesk evidently didn't consider that important
enough to make it a must-have in the first generation.

>The people I've noticed having the most issues are the ones that fight the
>system (at least here). No matter what it is, the ribbon >menu, Solidworks
>people having to learn Inventor, etc. The more they fight it, the more
>issues they have with it, the more frustrated >they become (ref the "wow,
>inventor sucks" post).

So anyone who doesn't like the new interface can safely be lumped together
with the ignorant, angsty teeners. That's convenient. Sorry; I don't buy
it. I gave the new interface an honest try, as I've already stated.

>Out of 30 odd users here, only ONE person is still using the classic menu
>setup and he's luck to be in Inventor a total of 5 hrs a >month.
>
>I'd say get used to it, because from what I've heard, the ability to revert
>back to the Classic menu is going away in the next release >or two.

(Carchuuung!)
*Dennis Jeffrey
Message 12 of 30 (92 Views)

Re: No one else has lasted even a day

09-15-2009 01:56 PM in reply to: *Walt Jaquith
OK, so i "drank" the Kool-Aid... :smileyhappy:
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*Walt Jaquith
Message 13 of 30 (92 Views)

Re: No one else has lasted even a day

09-15-2009 02:23 PM in reply to: *Walt Jaquith
"Dennis Jeffrey" wrote in message
news:6255019@discussion.autodesk.com...
OK, so i "drank" the Kool-Aid... :smileyhappy:

I can't help but admire Autodesk's propaganda machine. This isn't the first
time they've come out with some half-finished thingy that no one asked for,
and then proclaimed it an overwhelming success with users when the majority
of the users I'm talking to absolutely hate it.

Prolly just me
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Message 14 of 30 (92 Views)

Re: No one else has lasted even a day

09-15-2009 03:34 PM in reply to: *Walt Jaquith
>I can't help but admire Autodesk's propaganda machine.

I had a desker tell me at AU '08 that Sean loves the Ribbon interface.
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Re: No one else has lasted even a day

09-15-2009 03:37 PM in reply to: *Walt Jaquith
;-) That's good news.

schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:6255089@discussion.autodesk.com...
>I can't help but admire Autodesk's propaganda machine.

I had a desker tell me at AU '08 that Sean loves the Ribbon interface.
*Walt Jaquith
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Re: No one else has lasted even a day

09-15-2009 03:58 PM in reply to: *Walt Jaquith
wrote in message news:6255089@discussion.autodesk.com...
>I can't help but admire Autodesk's propaganda machine.

I had a desker tell me at AU '08 that Sean loves the Ribbon interface.




Must have been talking about Sean Connery.
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Message 17 of 30 (92 Views)

Re: No one else has lasted even a day

09-15-2009 04:47 PM in reply to: *Walt Jaquith
I am withholding comment on this topic as I haven't given Autodesk latest "improvement" a moment's consideration - my fault. My paycheck doesn't require me to teach anyone how to use Inventor, so I have no impetus.

When I have to slow down to learn it (i.e. no choice), I will. Meanwhile I will enjoy my various minor customizations and get on with the business of designing machinery. Probably my bad for not taking the time, but I already realize my own propensity for becoming distracted, and this is one distraction I can do without. Not to mention my current workstation struggles without the extra Ribbon memory overhead to keep up with the drawings I try to make, i.e. > 4minutes for a drawing refresh, etc,. "Inventor has used more than 80% resources", etc - here again this isn't Autodesk's fault.

This said, Autodesk is really pizzing me off for not having true multicore support yet. We've had multicore processors now on the market for 4-5 years IIRC. Now THERE would be a worthwhile "improvement", IMHO. I'm sure they have good management making good priority decisions.
*Dennis Jeffrey
Message 18 of 30 (92 Views)

Re: No one else has lasted even a day

09-15-2009 05:31 PM in reply to: *Walt Jaquith
I know Sean better than that.... :smileyhappy:
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Message 19 of 30 (92 Views)

Re: No one else has lasted even a day

09-15-2009 11:47 PM in reply to: *Walt Jaquith
I like the ribbon, all my custom commands stick and the tabs for switching between open parts, assemblies and idws are brilliant. The screen space taken by the ribbon is larger but that's not a problem now monitor sizes have increased so much.
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Message 20 of 30 (92 Views)

Re: No one else has lasted even a day

09-16-2009 01:18 AM in reply to: *Walt Jaquith
Not wanting to be smart but there is a tutorial on how to customise the ribbon and make it smaller. Maybe those that hate it so much should just customise it to suit what they want.

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