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Mold design subtraction.

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Anonymous
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Mold design subtraction.

Just had a mold designer here ask me for a method in IV to do a part subtraction for mold design.

Basically he is looking for something as simple as a boolean operation. I could come up with many ways through adaptive assemblies but they were mostly complicated and drawn out processes.

Anybody have a quick clean method for this?
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Message 2 of 12
Anonymous
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Look into derive.

wrote in message news:4977288@discussion.autodesk.com...
Just had a mold designer here ask me for a method in IV to do a part
subtraction for mold design.

Basically he is looking for something as simple as a boolean operation. I
could come up with many ways through adaptive assemblies but they were
mostly complicated and drawn out processes.

Anybody have a quick clean method for this?
Message 3 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

http://discussion.autodesk.com/thread.jspa?messageID=4814793 contains JD's tutorials and some more details.
Message 4 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Derived Component ---> Substract?

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wrote in message news:4977288@discussion.autodesk.com...
Just had a mold designer here ask me for a method in IV to do a part
subtraction for mold design.

Basically he is looking for something as simple as a boolean operation. I
could come up with many ways through adaptive assemblies but they were
mostly complicated and drawn out processes.

Anybody have a quick clean method for this?
Message 5 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

tahdesign wrote:
> Just had a mold designer here ask me for a method in IV to do a part subtraction for mold design.
>
> Basically he is looking for something as simple as a boolean operation. I could come up with many ways through adaptive assemblies but they were mostly complicated and drawn out processes.
>
> Anybody have a quick clean method for this?

I think you will find that a simple method will only work on simple
parts. Parting planes and cores add to the complexity. Derived
components work well once you get the concept. Basically, you put all
your components in an assembly and subtract, add or ignore various parts
to derive various mold components;i.e. cavities, cores, etc.
--
Billy Hiebert
HIEBERT SCULPTURE WORKS
Small Part Injection Molding
http://www.hieberts.com
Message 6 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Thanks to all of you,

I just did a simple example for the molding eng to show the steps involved in the adaptive subtraction.

Just wanted to show some method that IV could do this.
Message 7 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Good luck getting it to work on IMPORTED data though.
Most of the files I get imported into IV fail on these
more complex commands, though I have some workarounds
for adding some features when they fail. Not sure you
are using imported data or not, just thought I'd point
out that issue.

tahdesign wrote:
> Thanks to all of you,
>
> I just did a simple example for the molding eng to show the steps involved in the adaptive subtraction.
>
> Just wanted to show some method that IV could do this.
Message 8 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Bob S. wrote:
> Good luck getting it to work on IMPORTED data though.
> Most of the files I get imported into IV fail on these
> more complex commands, though I have some workarounds
> for adding some features when they fail. Not sure you
> are using imported data or not, just thought I'd point
> out that issue.

You're certainly right about the IMPORTED data problem. Fillets are
major problem, they can stop a simple part split before your finger is
off the button. Seems that many designers have heard that sharp corners
will cause stresses in molded parts; so they hit the "fillet all"
button. Without the fillets, most of the IV operations would have been
fine.
--
Billy Hiebert
HIEBERT SCULPTURE WORKS
Small Part Injection Molding
http://www.hieberts.com

>
> tahdesign wrote:
>
>>Thanks to all of you,
>>
>>I just did a simple example for the molding eng to show the steps involved in the adaptive subtraction.
>>
>>Just wanted to show some method that IV could do this.
Message 9 of 12
fmarra
in reply to: Anonymous

We have a package that could help you with easy and complex Inventor parst at:

http://www.progetti3d.it/?lingua=uk&progetti3d_public=9e6cb8b166f19b4c2045f49e254e63ec

It is easy to create splitting surfaces and all what you need to design molds.

Marra

Progetti Srl
Message 10 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I pasted on the link to our molders.
They just bought Pro-E but may be they will have a look since we already have IV.
Message 11 of 12
Willy_and_son
in reply to: Anonymous

Hi,

you should also look here:

http://www.moldandmore.com/index.php?site=produkte

Mold Factory is a copmplex application especially for mold-design, which includes a variety of functionalities for designing molds, e.g. "Mold Parting - Parting Surface".

hth

Willy
Message 12 of 12
chiarafrancisco
in reply to: Anonymous

Thank you Petra Benker for this information! I Will have a look at your web site.

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