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Let's make this software smarter...

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Anonymous
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Let's make this software smarter...

Using IV9...

Within an IDW you can select different "Selection Priorities" (Edge, Feature
and Part Priority). Very usefull if you quickly want to hide some parts in a
view (RMB on part --> Uncheck Visibility). But when you want to add an
annotation (a dimension for example), you must first switch back to "Edge
Priority" before you can select any lines.

It would be nice if Inventor would automaticly switch to "Edge Priority"
when a user wants to add an annotation.

Who's next?
--
T. Ham
Mechanical Engineer
CDS Engineering BV

Dual Pentium XEON 2.2 Ghz
2 GB SDRAM
NVIDIA QUADRO4 700 XGL (Driver = 6.0.8.5)
18 GB SEAGATE SCSI Hard Disc
3Com Gigabit NIC

Windows 2000 Professional SP4
Autodesk Inventor Series 9 SP2
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Message 2 of 55
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Not only this but when you DO switch back, it cancels out the command you
started and you have to go restart it again . . . grrrrr.

"Teun Ham (IV9 SP2)" wrote in
message news:4830032@discussion.autodesk.com...
Using IV9...

Within an IDW you can select different "Selection Priorities" (Edge, Feature
and Part Priority). Very usefull if you quickly want to hide some parts in a
view (RMB on part --> Uncheck Visibility). But when you want to add an
annotation (a dimension for example), you must first switch back to "Edge
Priority" before you can select any lines.

It would be nice if Inventor would automaticly switch to "Edge Priority"
when a user wants to add an annotation.

Who's next?
--
T. Ham
Mechanical Engineer
CDS Engineering BV

Dual Pentium XEON 2.2 Ghz
2 GB SDRAM
NVIDIA QUADRO4 700 XGL (Driver = 6.0.8.5)
18 GB SEAGATE SCSI Hard Disc
3Com Gigabit NIC

Windows 2000 Professional SP4
Autodesk Inventor Series 9 SP2
Message 3 of 55
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I always set the part visibility by selecting it in the browser myself.
That way I don't have to switch back and forth.


"Teun Ham (IV9 SP2)" wrote in message news:4830032@discussion.autodesk.com...
Using IV9...

Within an IDW you can select different "Selection Priorities" (Edge, Feature
and Part Priority). Very usefull if you quickly want to hide some parts in a
view (RMB on part --> Uncheck Visibility). But when you want to add an
annotation (a dimension for example), you must first switch back to "Edge
Priority" before you can select any lines.

It would be nice if Inventor would automaticly switch to "Edge Priority"
when a user wants to add an annotation.

Who's next?
--
T. Ham
Mechanical Engineer
CDS Engineering BV

Dual Pentium XEON 2.2 Ghz
2 GB SDRAM
NVIDIA QUADRO4 700 XGL (Driver = 6.0.8.5)
18 GB SEAGATE SCSI Hard Disc
3Com Gigabit NIC

Windows 2000 Professional SP4
Autodesk Inventor Series 9 SP2
Message 4 of 55
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

We have recently been reviewing this very behavior to try and improve the
selection consistency. We too feel there needs be better "auto-filtering"
to the geometry type that the active command is looking for.

Thanks for voicing your concern over this issue.

--

Regards,
Jason Ruge
Inventor QA
Autodesk, Inc.



"Teun Ham (IV9 SP2)" wrote in
message news:4830032@discussion.autodesk.com...
Using IV9...

Within an IDW you can select different "Selection Priorities" (Edge, Feature
and Part Priority). Very usefull if you quickly want to hide some parts in a
view (RMB on part --> Uncheck Visibility). But when you want to add an
annotation (a dimension for example), you must first switch back to "Edge
Priority" before you can select any lines.

It would be nice if Inventor would automaticly switch to "Edge Priority"
when a user wants to add an annotation.

Who's next?
--
T. Ham
Mechanical Engineer
CDS Engineering BV

Dual Pentium XEON 2.2 Ghz
2 GB SDRAM
NVIDIA QUADRO4 700 XGL (Driver = 6.0.8.5)
18 GB SEAGATE SCSI Hard Disc
3Com Gigabit NIC

Windows 2000 Professional SP4
Autodesk Inventor Series 9 SP2
Message 5 of 55
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Jason,
You guys should maybe take a look at the selection methods Unigraphics uses. 😉

P.S. The Selection filters API stuff is still lacking too, IMHO. (IV10)

"Jason Ruge (Autodesk)" wrote in message news:4830141@discussion.autodesk.com...
We have recently been reviewing this very behavior to try and improve the
selection consistency. We too feel there needs be better "auto-filtering"
to the geometry type that the active command is looking for.

Thanks for voicing your concern over this issue.

--

Regards,
Jason Ruge
Inventor QA
Autodesk, Inc.



"Teun Ham (IV9 SP2)" wrote in
message news:4830032@discussion.autodesk.com...
Using IV9...

Within an IDW you can select different "Selection Priorities" (Edge, Feature
and Part Priority). Very usefull if you quickly want to hide some parts in a
view (RMB on part --> Uncheck Visibility). But when you want to add an
annotation (a dimension for example), you must first switch back to "Edge
Priority" before you can select any lines.

It would be nice if Inventor would automaticly switch to "Edge Priority"
when a user wants to add an annotation.

Who's next?
--
T. Ham
Mechanical Engineer
CDS Engineering BV

Dual Pentium XEON 2.2 Ghz
2 GB SDRAM
NVIDIA QUADRO4 700 XGL (Driver = 6.0.8.5)
18 GB SEAGATE SCSI Hard Disc
3Com Gigabit NIC

Windows 2000 Professional SP4
Autodesk Inventor Series 9 SP2
Message 6 of 55
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

We're aware of this issue and are working to correct this behavior.
Yes...making it smarter is an apt description of the project.
--
Andrew Faix
Product Designer - Inventor Drawing Manager
Autodesk


"Teun Ham (IV9 SP2)" wrote in
message news:4830032@discussion.autodesk.com...
Using IV9...

Within an IDW you can select different "Selection Priorities" (Edge, Feature
and Part Priority). Very usefull if you quickly want to hide some parts in a
view (RMB on part --> Uncheck Visibility). But when you want to add an
annotation (a dimension for example), you must first switch back to "Edge
Priority" before you can select any lines.

It would be nice if Inventor would automaticly switch to "Edge Priority"
when a user wants to add an annotation.

Who's next?
--
T. Ham
Mechanical Engineer
CDS Engineering BV

Dual Pentium XEON 2.2 Ghz
2 GB SDRAM
NVIDIA QUADRO4 700 XGL (Driver = 6.0.8.5)
18 GB SEAGATE SCSI Hard Disc
3Com Gigabit NIC

Windows 2000 Professional SP4
Autodesk Inventor Series 9 SP2
Message 7 of 55
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

By the way, why the other view doesn't keep the color of the parts of the first view ? We will only have to change the color of the first view and "voilà" all the drawing update !!!

Another one: possibility to change the color of all the part with the same filename in 1 shot !!! Great save of time !

And, why, oh why, the dimension style return to the standard each time we exit the command. Nearly on each of our drawing, we use 2 or 3 style of dimension...

This 3 little thing can save me a lot of click and time !! Thanks to listening Autodesk and put this in the SP1, SP2 or at least INV11 !!!
Message 8 of 55
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

>Who's next?

How about this one...

You're in a dialog box, like fillet, chamfer, hole, or any number of others.
There's a bunch of things to do in the dialog box, and *one* thing to do out
of it--select the edge/point/whatever that you want the command to apply to.
But you still have to check the 'select feature' button before going out of
the box to pick. Wouldn't it be great if the software just knew to
automatically put you in select mode whenever the mouse curser went outside
the dialog box? It's small things like this that can make an otherwise
slick software package seem to kludge along like a 1982 word processor.

There are a few dialogs (array, for instance), that require picking more
than one kind of feature, and would need special treatment, but the majority
are single-item-pick types. There are ways that the multiple-pick commands
could be streamlined as well.

Cheers,
Walt
Message 9 of 55
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

There are a few dialogs (array, for instance), that require picking more
than one kind of feature, and would need special treatment, but the majority
are single-item-pick types. There are ways that the multiple-pick commands
could be streamlined as well.

Cheers,
Walt


RMB and a context sensitive menu perhaps


--
Duncan
"Humour ... is one man shouting gibberish in the face of authority, and proving by fabricated insanity that nothing could be as mad
as what passes for ordinary living."
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Message 10 of 55
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I have been asking for that one since I started with Inventor. Anything
that cuts down on clicks is a plus in my book. My mouse arm and hand
rapidly getting worn out the older I get.

--
Kent Keller
Autodesk Discussion Forum Facilitator


"Walt Jaquith" wrote in message

Wouldn't it be great if the software just knew to
automatically put you in select mode whenever the mouse curser went outside
the dialog box?
Message 11 of 55
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I'd love to hear if anyone on the development team has ever done a mouse
click count study. I'd have a hard time believing they haven't, but there
are so many areas in the software that seem to have sooo many extra clicks,
I wonder if it isn't time to make this a priority.

One quick example: the file place dialogue box is much smaller than the
file open window, and requires lots more thrashing around.

I'm no spring chicken, either. I'd like to see a large (40%????) reduction
in clicks.

Gary

"Kent Keller" wrote in message
news:4830412@discussion.autodesk.com...
I have been asking for that one since I started with Inventor. Anything
that cuts down on clicks is a plus in my book. My mouse arm and hand
rapidly getting worn out the older I get.

--
Kent Keller
Autodesk Discussion Forum Facilitator


"Walt Jaquith" wrote in message

Wouldn't it be great if the software just knew to
automatically put you in select mode whenever the mouse curser went outside
the dialog box?
Message 12 of 55
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

There are ongoing "usability" efforts underway. Reducing mouse click
requirements across the product is among the tasks under development.
Threads like this one will help in this effort.
--
Andrew Faix
Product Designer - Inventor Drawing Manager
Autodesk


"Gary Cook" wrote in message
news:4830766@discussion.autodesk.com...
I'd love to hear if anyone on the development team has ever done a mouse
click count study. I'd have a hard time believing they haven't, but there
are so many areas in the software that seem to have sooo many extra clicks,
I wonder if it isn't time to make this a priority.

One quick example: the file place dialogue box is much smaller than the
file open window, and requires lots more thrashing around.

I'm no spring chicken, either. I'd like to see a large (40%????) reduction
in clicks.

Gary

"Kent Keller" wrote in message
news:4830412@discussion.autodesk.com...
I have been asking for that one since I started with Inventor. Anything
that cuts down on clicks is a plus in my book. My mouse arm and hand
rapidly getting worn out the older I get.

--
Kent Keller
Autodesk Discussion Forum Facilitator


"Walt Jaquith" wrote in message

Wouldn't it be great if the software just knew to
automatically put you in select mode whenever the mouse curser went outside
the dialog box?
Message 13 of 55
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Please add to the list the ability to be able to have more RMB context
menu items when multiple items of the same type are selected. One example
where this is needed is "Break Link" for reference sketch geometry,
but there are several areas where this needs to be addressed.


"Andrew Faix (Autodesk)" wrote in message news:4830768@discussion.autodesk.com...
There are ongoing "usability" efforts underway. Reducing mouse click
requirements across the product is among the tasks under development.
Threads like this one will help in this effort.
--
Andrew Faix
Product Designer - Inventor Drawing Manager
Autodesk


"Gary Cook" wrote in message
news:4830766@discussion.autodesk.com...
I'd love to hear if anyone on the development team has ever done a mouse
click count study. I'd have a hard time believing they haven't, but there
are so many areas in the software that seem to have sooo many extra clicks,
I wonder if it isn't time to make this a priority.

One quick example: the file place dialogue box is much smaller than the
file open window, and requires lots more thrashing around.

I'm no spring chicken, either. I'd like to see a large (40%????) reduction
in clicks.

Gary

"Kent Keller" wrote in message
news:4830412@discussion.autodesk.com...
I have been asking for that one since I started with Inventor. Anything
that cuts down on clicks is a plus in my book. My mouse arm and hand
rapidly getting worn out the older I get.

--
Kent Keller
Autodesk Discussion Forum Facilitator


"Walt Jaquith" wrote in message

Wouldn't it be great if the software just knew to
automatically put you in select mode whenever the mouse curser went outside
the dialog box?
Message 14 of 55
xavierl
in reply to: Anonymous

3d line or spline is really irritating.
if you want to draw rails for a loft, you have to keep going in and out of 3d drawing .
regards
Frans X Liebenberg
Message 15 of 55
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

You know what would be really cools and save some work is the ability to set
the column widths by dragging in the partslist dialog

--
Kent Keller
Autodesk Discussion Forum Facilitator


"Andrew Faix (Autodesk)" wrote in message
news:4830768@discussion.autodesk.com...
There are ongoing "usability" efforts underway. Reducing mouse click
requirements across the product is among the tasks under development.
Threads like this one will help in this effort.
--
Andrew Faix
Product Designer - Inventor Drawing Manager
Autodesk
Message 16 of 55
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Boy, I'd like to be able to drag and drop into an idw instead of using base view. Base view doesn't figure out I'm specifying parts from a sub folder till I'm about done and ready to switch to another folder.

And pleazzze put a switch in doc setting to turn of auto scale, turn on tangents, and turn on bend extents on flats.
Message 17 of 55
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Amen!!


wrote in message news:4830941@discussion.autodesk.com...
And pleazzze put a switch in doc setting to turn of auto scale, turn on
tangents, and turn on bend extents on flats.
Message 18 of 55
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Of all the magic that IV does, why is it so hard to get uniformed, resizable, persistence dialog boxes? This one doesn't resize, and it always defaults to the same spacing under name, which is just big enough to see nothing. Every time you edit first thing is to adjust the spacing.
Message 19 of 55
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

wrote in message news:4832069@discussion.autodesk.com...
Of all the magic that IV does, why is it so hard to get uniformed,
resizable, persistence dialog boxes? This one doesn't resize, and it always
defaults to the same spacing under name, which is just big enough to see
nothing. Every time you edit first thing is to adjust the spacing.

And while we're at it, why are the default values in the dialog boxes
seemingly cast into solid titanium? Why can't I tell Inventor that I want
the default value for a fillet (or the diameter of a hole or the....) to be
whatever I want it to be?
Message 20 of 55
mount_mordor
in reply to: Anonymous

I'll second that, being able to define our own defaults would save a lot of time.

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