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*MacGillivray, Bob
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Interesting Article on 3D Model Viewing over the Web

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11-05-2002 12:13 AM
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*Dotson, Sean
Message 2 of 12 (67 Views)

Re: Interesting Article on 3D Model Viewing over the Web

11-05-2002 12:22 AM in reply to: *MacGillivray, Bob
FYI: IV has their own version of this in the form of XGL and ZGL files..as
well as AMP (Streamline assembly packages)

(couldn't let the other guys get the last word)

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"Bob MacGillivray" wrote in message
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>
>
*Hedlund, Jan
Message 3 of 12 (67 Views)

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11-05-2002 04:51 AM in reply to: *MacGillivray, Bob
If I'd like to put a part on my web-site, should I export it as xgl or zgl?
What kind of plug-in do other need to be able to see, rotate my part?
/Jan
www.hemma.ac/janne/home


"Sean Dotson" skrev i meddelandet
news:7DD3E3296CC4546CFBD0A13AD1D7E596@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> FYI: IV has their own version of this in the form of XGL and ZGL
files..as
> well as AMP (Streamline assembly packages)
>
> (couldn't let the other guys get the last word)
>
> --
> Sean Dotson, PE
> http://www.sdotson.com
> remove all #s from email
> -----------------------------------------
> "Bob MacGillivray" wrote in message
> news:f11fdfc.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > http://go.cadwire.net/?3270,3,101.65,572
> >
> >
>
>
*Dotson, Sean
Message 4 of 12 (67 Views)

Re:

11-05-2002 05:14 AM in reply to: *MacGillivray, Bob
here is a standalone viewer (at the bottom)... I know there is a plugin but
I can't seem to find it..

http://www.envisageuk.com/download.htm

--
Sean Dotson, PE
http://www.sdotson.com
remove all #s from email
-----------------------------------------
"Jan Hedlund" wrote in message
news:16EAF14C424419EDE9DB9EF3AD1E326B@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> If I'd like to put a part on my web-site, should I export it as xgl or
zgl?
> What kind of plug-in do other need to be able to see, rotate my part?
> /Jan
> www.hemma.ac/janne/home
>
>
> "Sean Dotson" skrev i meddelandet
> news:7DD3E3296CC4546CFBD0A13AD1D7E596@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > FYI: IV has their own version of this in the form of XGL and ZGL
> files..as
> > well as AMP (Streamline assembly packages)
> >
> > (couldn't let the other guys get the last word)
> >
> > --
> > Sean Dotson, PE
> > http://www.sdotson.com
> > remove all #s from email
> > -----------------------------------------
> > "Bob MacGillivray" wrote in message
> > news:f11fdfc.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > http://go.cadwire.net/?3270,3,101.65,572
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
*Radlin, David
Message 5 of 12 (67 Views)

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11-05-2002 05:18 AM in reply to: *MacGillivray, Bob
... which are not much use unless you have a Streamline or similar
RealityWave VizStream based account. Autodesk wants you to go the
Streamline route.

I guess I don't blame them but I'd like to see more options available to me
in this area.

If Dassault is using OpenHSF then that is reason for Autodesk not to (VBG).

Dave

"Sean Dotson" wrote in message
news:7DD3E3296CC4546CFBD0A13AD1D7E596@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> FYI: IV has their own version of this in the form of XGL and ZGL
files..as
> well as AMP (Streamline assembly packages)
>
> (couldn't let the other guys get the last word)
>
> --
> Sean Dotson, PE
> http://www.sdotson.com
> remove all #s from email
> -----------------------------------------
> "Bob MacGillivray" wrote in message
> news:f11fdfc.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > http://go.cadwire.net/?3270,3,101.65,572
> >
> >
>
>
*Dotson, Sean
Message 6 of 12 (67 Views)

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11-05-2002 05:30 AM in reply to: *MacGillivray, Bob
the AMP are streamline based but the ZGL and XGL have free viewers out
there...(see post above for one)

--
Sean Dotson, PE
http://www.sdotson.com
remove all #s from email
-----------------------------------------
"David Radlin" wrote in message
news:82E9264BD72BB4753712077BA27D6A5C@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> ... which are not much use unless you have a Streamline or similar
> RealityWave VizStream based account. Autodesk wants you to go the
> Streamline route.
>
> I guess I don't blame them but I'd like to see more options available to
me
> in this area.
>
> If Dassault is using OpenHSF then that is reason for Autodesk not to
(VBG).
>
> Dave
>
> "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
> news:7DD3E3296CC4546CFBD0A13AD1D7E596@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > FYI: IV has their own version of this in the form of XGL and ZGL
> files..as
> > well as AMP (Streamline assembly packages)
> >
> > (couldn't let the other guys get the last word)
> >
> > --
> > Sean Dotson, PE
> > http://www.sdotson.com
> > remove all #s from email
> > -----------------------------------------
> > "Bob MacGillivray" wrote in message
> > news:f11fdfc.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > http://go.cadwire.net/?3270,3,101.65,572
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
*Radlin, David
Message 7 of 12 (67 Views)

Re:

11-05-2002 05:34 AM in reply to: *MacGillivray, Bob
You need a VizStream enabled server in order to stream zgl files over the
web or a Streamline or RealityWave account. You can't simply install a
viewer, post a zgl file to your html folder and have a web viewer... well
you can... sort of.... but then visitors could download your zgl file. The
idea is to have the model streamed to the viewer without actually
downloading a file. This gives you control over who sees what and when.

Dave

"Sean Dotson" wrote in message
news:3A35C715A43520DB639CB5A49C4FE398@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> the AMP are streamline based but the ZGL and XGL have free viewers out
> there...(see post above for one)
>
> --
> Sean Dotson, PE
> http://www.sdotson.com
> remove all #s from email
> -----------------------------------------
> "David Radlin" wrote in message
> news:82E9264BD72BB4753712077BA27D6A5C@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > ... which are not much use unless you have a Streamline or similar
> > RealityWave VizStream based account. Autodesk wants you to go the
> > Streamline route.
> >
> > I guess I don't blame them but I'd like to see more options available to
> me
> > in this area.
> >
> > If Dassault is using OpenHSF then that is reason for Autodesk not to
> (VBG).
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
> > news:7DD3E3296CC4546CFBD0A13AD1D7E596@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > FYI: IV has their own version of this in the form of XGL and ZGL
> > files..as
> > > well as AMP (Streamline assembly packages)
> > >
> > > (couldn't let the other guys get the last word)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sean Dotson, PE
> > > http://www.sdotson.com
> > > remove all #s from email
> > > -----------------------------------------
> > > "Bob MacGillivray" wrote in message
> > > news:f11fdfc.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > http://go.cadwire.net/?3270,3,101.65,572
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
*Dotson, Sean
Message 8 of 12 (67 Views)

Re:

11-05-2002 05:39 AM in reply to: *MacGillivray, Bob
Maybe this was it:

http://www.buzzsaw.com/content/support/supportpop_software.html


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Sean Dotson, PE
http://www.sdotson.com
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-----------------------------------------
"Sean Dotson" wrote in message
news:505A9D9AC9AF2C1B338F62C081EFAFDF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> here is a standalone viewer (at the bottom)... I know there is a plugin
but
> I can't seem to find it..
>
> http://www.envisageuk.com/download.htm
>
> --
> Sean Dotson, PE
> http://www.sdotson.com
> remove all #s from email
> -----------------------------------------
> "Jan Hedlund" wrote in message
> news:16EAF14C424419EDE9DB9EF3AD1E326B@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > If I'd like to put a part on my web-site, should I export it as xgl or
> zgl?
> > What kind of plug-in do other need to be able to see, rotate my part?
> > /Jan
> > www.hemma.ac/janne/home
> >
> >
> > "Sean Dotson" skrev i meddelandet
> > news:7DD3E3296CC4546CFBD0A13AD1D7E596@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > FYI: IV has their own version of this in the form of XGL and ZGL
> > files..as
> > > well as AMP (Streamline assembly packages)
> > >
> > > (couldn't let the other guys get the last word)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sean Dotson, PE
> > > http://www.sdotson.com
> > > remove all #s from email
> > > -----------------------------------------
> > > "Bob MacGillivray" wrote in message
> > > news:f11fdfc.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > http://go.cadwire.net/?3270,3,101.65,572
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
*Dotson, Sean
Message 9 of 12 (67 Views)

Re:

11-05-2002 05:44 AM in reply to: *MacGillivray, Bob
You can download the Streamline extension package for Inventor from the
www.buzzsaw.com site. I assume it includes the xgl/zgl plugin viewer. As I
have already gotten the streamline plugin I've already had this installed I
assume so I can't be sure 100%.

Security is a separate issue IMO.

--
Sean Dotson, PE
http://www.sdotson.com
remove all #s from email
-----------------------------------------
"David Radlin" wrote in message
news:01AD8978718E84867911A7343FF2301C@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> You need a VizStream enabled server in order to stream zgl files over the
> web or a Streamline or RealityWave account. You can't simply install a
> viewer, post a zgl file to your html folder and have a web viewer... well
> you can... sort of.... but then visitors could download your zgl file.
The
> idea is to have the model streamed to the viewer without actually
> downloading a file. This gives you control over who sees what and when.
>
> Dave
>
> "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
> news:3A35C715A43520DB639CB5A49C4FE398@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > the AMP are streamline based but the ZGL and XGL have free viewers out
> > there...(see post above for one)
> >
> > --
> > Sean Dotson, PE
> > http://www.sdotson.com
> > remove all #s from email
> > -----------------------------------------
> > "David Radlin" wrote in message
> > news:82E9264BD72BB4753712077BA27D6A5C@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > ... which are not much use unless you have a Streamline or similar
> > > RealityWave VizStream based account. Autodesk wants you to go the
> > > Streamline route.
> > >
> > > I guess I don't blame them but I'd like to see more options available
to
> > me
> > > in this area.
> > >
> > > If Dassault is using OpenHSF then that is reason for Autodesk not to
> > (VBG).
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
> > > news:7DD3E3296CC4546CFBD0A13AD1D7E596@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > FYI: IV has their own version of this in the form of XGL and ZGL
> > > files..as
> > > > well as AMP (Streamline assembly packages)
> > > >
> > > > (couldn't let the other guys get the last word)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Sean Dotson, PE
> > > > http://www.sdotson.com
> > > > remove all #s from email
> > > > -----------------------------------------
> > > > "Bob MacGillivray" wrote in
message
> > > > news:f11fdfc.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > http://go.cadwire.net/?3270,3,101.65,572
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
*Radlin, David
Message 10 of 12 (67 Views)

Re:

11-05-2002 06:08 AM in reply to: *MacGillivray, Bob
Security and bandwidth are precisely the issues on the topic of web based
viewing / collaboration. The "web streaming" concept is what makes web
based viewing practical. The viewer is handy but not so practical by
comparison to true web based viewing on which the article was topic.
Plug-ins do nothing without an enabled server to host and stream your data.
My point is to make the distinction for the benefit of Jan and others.

Dave

"Sean Dotson" wrote in message
news:5F0F92D57A0E97E822A3F837B6887C0B@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> You can download the Streamline extension package for Inventor from the
> www.buzzsaw.com site. I assume it includes the xgl/zgl plugin viewer. As
I
> have already gotten the streamline plugin I've already had this installed
I
> assume so I can't be sure 100%.
>
> Security is a separate issue IMO.
>
> --
> Sean Dotson, PE
> http://www.sdotson.com
> remove all #s from email
> -----------------------------------------
> "David Radlin" wrote in message
> news:01AD8978718E84867911A7343FF2301C@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > You need a VizStream enabled server in order to stream zgl files over
the
> > web or a Streamline or RealityWave account. You can't simply install a
> > viewer, post a zgl file to your html folder and have a web viewer...
well
> > you can... sort of.... but then visitors could download your zgl file.
> The
> > idea is to have the model streamed to the viewer without actually
> > downloading a file. This gives you control over who sees what and when.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
> > news:3A35C715A43520DB639CB5A49C4FE398@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > the AMP are streamline based but the ZGL and XGL have free viewers out
> > > there...(see post above for one)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sean Dotson, PE
> > > http://www.sdotson.com
> > > remove all #s from email
> > > -----------------------------------------
> > > "David Radlin" wrote in message
> > > news:82E9264BD72BB4753712077BA27D6A5C@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > ... which are not much use unless you have a Streamline or similar
> > > > RealityWave VizStream based account. Autodesk wants you to go the
> > > > Streamline route.
> > > >
> > > > I guess I don't blame them but I'd like to see more options
available
> to
> > > me
> > > > in this area.
> > > >
> > > > If Dassault is using OpenHSF then that is reason for Autodesk not to
> > > (VBG).
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
> > > > news:7DD3E3296CC4546CFBD0A13AD1D7E596@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > FYI: IV has their own version of this in the form of XGL and ZGL
> > > > files..as
> > > > > well as AMP (Streamline assembly packages)
> > > > >
> > > > > (couldn't let the other guys get the last word)
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Sean Dotson, PE
> > > > > http://www.sdotson.com
> > > > > remove all #s from email
> > > > > -----------------------------------------
> > > > > "Bob MacGillivray" wrote in
> message
> > > > > news:f11fdfc.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > > http://go.cadwire.net/?3270,3,101.65,572
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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